Bleak times ahead for England

Jon, why be like that? You MUST take into account quite a bit. Rooney’s still trying to find his form from last season. He and the rest of the guys you mentioned, along with others, play a lot in the grueling Premier League, not to mention the Champions League, Carling Cup, and FA Cup. Many English players, as the book “Soccernomics” states, throw everything they have into the game as soon as it starts. They must remember, there are two 45 minute halves, and this isn’t baseball or American football, where you can get all those little breaks and get water or Gatorade. . . The facts actually show how England gets tired: they score less and less goals in the 2nd half.

Thanks Brad, Soccernomics is a good book, as is another book I recently read called, why England lose. That too shows that England actually perform about as well as they should do, taking everything in to account.

I agree with Jon and Bacon 310, in as much as it is hard to summon the energy to continue to support players like Terry, Cole, Barry, Lampard and Gerrard, when they have never managed to achieve what we thought they would and are now coming to the end of their career yet still get selected.

We need to blood the younger players right now and I have no doubt that we will all rally round them and give them great support.

How’s that the answer Jon? I’ve heard a few people take that attitude recently! But if your club team were playing poorly, would you stop supporting them all together? i doubt it, no real football fan would dream of it.

What we need to do is start bringing these young players through and really get behind them, convince them, as a nation, that they are good enough to be the side that breaks this bad spell.

I hope it is abject misery in England games. I want them to suffer as much as they made me suffer in that world cup.

It’s not even a matter of mediocre players. It’s that our top players, players playing in the champions league like rooney, cole, terry, lampard, gerrard always under perform for england.

I won’t be supporting england again until there’s hope and at the moment its bleaker than a room full of meth addicts…

Graham, have you ever read a book called “Soccernomics”? If you haven’t you should get it, good read. One chapter shows that England are actually performing more. . . up to standard, though this squad list seems to be below standard. England’s real problem is that they win more friendlies than they do Euro Championships and WC quarterfinals+semifinals, from what that book says!

Vishnu, I think what you say makes sense. We really must try the young players and not rely on the older players who have never actually produced when it mattered anyway.

Wayne, I can’t let you blame David, it was me who wrote it! With hindsight it wasn’t a great piece but it was aimed at sparking some debate. Having said that, I do think the future looks no brighter than the recent past.

England can be a top team.., for that they should play with same and cosistent team for the next 3 years with world i mind..,
The perfect squad to be raised for next WC.
Joe Hart, Ben Foster
Glen johnson Cahill Smalling Kyle walker Gibbs
Walcot Wilshere Henderson Adam johnson Ashley young Jack rodwell
Rooney Carol Welbeck..,
Play with this squad regularly and make them a well settled unit by the WC, till euro 12, from seniors terry cole and gerrard should be allowed, after that they should be droped..,
Readers pls post ur opinion on this..

DAVID NUGENT or what ever your name is,sorry i forgret…..mate,that is by far the worst piece ive ever read from this site in the years iv been visiting……i know people write stuff for it to be a hot yopic and cause little debates,which all fans love……but this……BRUTAL……what u tryin to do here…..?? im shocked

DAVID NUGENT or what ever your name is,sorry i forgret…..mate,that is by far the worst piece ive ever read from this site in the years iv been visiting……i know people write stuff for it to be a hot yopic and cause little debates,which all fans love……but this……BRUTAL……what u tryin to do here…..?? im shocked

England can be a top team.., for that they should play with same and cosistent team for the next 3 years with world i mind..,
The perfect squad to be raised for next WC.
Joe Hart, Ben Foster
Glen johnson Cahill Smalling Kyle walker Gibbs
Walcot Wilshere Henderson Adam johnson Ashley young Jack rodwell
Rooney Carol Welbeck..,
Play with this squad regularly and make them a well settled unit by the WC, till euro 12, from seniors terry cole and gerrard should be allowed, after that they should be droped..,
Readers pls post ur opinion on this..

Vishnu, I think what you say makes sense. We really must try the young players and not rely on the older players who have never actually produced when it mattered anyway.

Wayne, I can’t let you blame David, it was me who wrote it! With hindsight it wasn’t a great piece but it was aimed at sparking some debate. Having said that, I do think the future looks no brighter than the recent past.

Graham, have you ever read a book called “Soccernomics”? If you haven’t you should get it, good read. One chapter shows that England are actually performing more. . . up to standard, though this squad list seems to be below standard. England’s real problem is that they win more friendlies than they do Euro Championships and WC quarterfinals+semifinals, from what that book says!

I hope it is abject misery in England games. I want them to suffer as much as they made me suffer in that world cup.

It’s not even a matter of mediocre players. It’s that our top players, players playing in the champions league like rooney, cole, terry, lampard, gerrard always under perform for england.

I won’t be supporting england again until there’s hope and at the moment its bleaker than a room full of meth addicts…

How’s that the answer Jon? I’ve heard a few people take that attitude recently! But if your club team were playing poorly, would you stop supporting them all together? i doubt it, no real football fan would dream of it.

What we need to do is start bringing these young players through and really get behind them, convince them, as a nation, that they are good enough to be the side that breaks this bad spell.

Thanks Brad, Soccernomics is a good book, as is another book I recently read called, why England lose. That too shows that England actually perform about as well as they should do, taking everything in to account.

I agree with Jon and Bacon 310, in as much as it is hard to summon the energy to continue to support players like Terry, Cole, Barry, Lampard and Gerrard, when they have never managed to achieve what we thought they would and are now coming to the end of their career yet still get selected.

We need to blood the younger players right now and I have no doubt that we will all rally round them and give them great support.

Jon, why be like that? You MUST take into account quite a bit. Rooney’s still trying to find his form from last season. He and the rest of the guys you mentioned, along with others, play a lot in the grueling Premier League, not to mention the Champions League, Carling Cup, and FA Cup. Many English players, as the book “Soccernomics” states, throw everything they have into the game as soon as it starts. They must remember, there are two 45 minute halves, and this isn’t baseball or American football, where you can get all those little breaks and get water or Gatorade. . . The facts actually show how England gets tired: they score less and less goals in the 2nd half.