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Doesn’t Beckham deserve more respect?

Graham Fisher in Editorial, General Soccer News, MLS 21 Jul 2009

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Love him or loathe him, you can’t keep David Beckham out of the news. The thirty-four year old mega-star played his first game back in Los Angeles over the weekend since he returned from his loan spell at AC Milan.

Anger

LA Galaxy were playing Milan in a friendly that had been arranged as part of the deal and some sections of the Galaxy support made their feelings of anger towards Beckham very clear indeed.

There were banners with slogans like “Go home fraud”, “Here before, here after and here despite 23” and “Repent 23”

As the players were introduced there were some cheers for Beckham but they were drowned out by the booing. His every touch was jeered early on by a section of the crowd. As the players left the field at half-time Beckham walked towards an area of seating where jeering fans were sitting and he had to be escorted away from them as at least one angry fan had to be restrained.

Beckham was philosophical after the game,

“The majority of fans have been great. It was only one or two that, you know, it was to be expected. Sometimes it goes beyond it. I tried to shake one of the guy’s hands but he didn’t want any of it. That’s the way it is.”

On the pitch, Beckham showed that he is still a very important player by creating a goal with a great cross-field pass and then another when his accurate corner was headed in. Those two goals helped the Galaxy to an impressive 2-2 draw.

Unprofessional

After the game Galaxy striker Landon Donovan, who only last week was in the news for calling Beckham unprofessional, said,

“There’s not another player on this team or in this league who can make those kinds of plays. That’s going to be crucial for us.”

Beckham shrugged his shoulders in the direction of the jeering fans and applauded the majority who had been supportive when he was substituted on seventy-five minutes.

Of course, it is well documented that Beckham has stated that he wants to return to Milan and their manager, Leonardo, did nothing to suggest that won’t happen,

“His charisma is very important for other players. We are really happy with his situation.”

Beckham’s first game back with the Galaxy had been in a 3-1 win at the New York Red Bulls and with just six games remaining in their league season, they sit third in the table. Beckham may yet play a big part in what could be the Galaxy’s best ever end to a season. If he does, I’m not sure his detractors will still be booing him.

Overrated

Debates continue to rage about whether Beckham is and was a great footballer or is simply a brand that is vastly overrated. Whichever way you look at it, if he manages to appear for England in Germany 2010 that would be fourteen years of international football including four World Cups and two European Championships. He captained his country for six years and has played for three of World football’s greatest clubs, Manchester United, Real Madrid and AC Milan.

Whatever you might think of his ability as a player he surely deserves more respect than some people are showing him in LA at the moment doesn’t he?

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Graham Fisher


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  • Ram

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    Hey guys,to those unrightful critic please! for once don’t critisize as if you all know everything.If you all guys are in his shoes IT MIGHT BE WORST THAN WHAT THAN WHAT BECKHAM DID!

  • The Soccer Snob

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    Jake! What the hell are you still doing here?!? If you call invalid, false, and imaginary points a “defense” then you should go back to school. My point is that you only pull shit out of your ass, so continuing any further is pointless because your delusional.

  • Jake

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    look snoop just cause your wife told you that you got a big one doesnt always mean its true.
    Cause when shes with me she tells me the same and also that you got the little guy.

    Who said I wasnt defending my opinion ? what ,you didnt read the 50 million post ? I wasnt going off topic either little dick, those are the reasons why I believe that he deserves more credit cockface so thats why I mentioned them. okay soccerpoop I dont know what else to tell you but stop acting like a little cunt and have a good day

  • Chelsea FC Fan

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    lol…omg Snob..ur too much. Good point tho and I will take it in to consideration myself.

  • The Soccer Snob

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    Jake, don’t be such a whiner! If you weren’t ready to go to war, you shouldn’t have called me out! I was minding my own business, then you targeted me by stating I don’t know the whole story and I’m pulling shit out of my ass. Its not my fault my cock is bigger than yours.

    Have your opinion, I don’t care, but if your going to come here and sound off on topics you don’t know about, prepare to defend your position, or else I’ll come down on you.

  • Jake

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    Lol thank you Chelsea fan, I don’t even think snoop realizes it’s a opinion on which I am sidin for beckham and he is not so we will have our arguments an such.

  • Chelsea FC Fan

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    haha…

    Snob…why u giving Jake such a hard time.

    Snob (and myself) are saying Beck’s puts his personal agenda before anything else. Jake (and company) are implying that Beckham is doing what he can to help the MLS. Both are true…does Beckham deserve more respect from the Galaxy/MLS fans for doing these things?

    Once again – NO! He already gets the respect he deserves and I don’t think anyone owes Beckham more than that. He gets to do whatever he wants to do while promoting the MLS. The Galaxy fans only intensified the locker room drama and they are not to blame…Donovan is the one to show a bit more respect as he himself said that he should have not called Beckham out in public like that (but I think it was a good move to get Beck’s on the same page again). The fans felt that frustration and took it out on Beck’s. So, in a sense, Beck’s deserves a little more from the team (and the team thinks they deserve more from Beck’s)…but nobody else owes Beck’s anything. The fans felt betrayed for good reason and they let it be known.

  • The Soccer Snob

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    You are wrong, so keep it to yourself.

  • Jake

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    sorry snoob I dont know how to this say this BUT, why the fuck why I admit I am wrong ? its my opinion dumbass ! you have your points and then you dont so get your head out of your ass, I know im not always right but I never thought my whole OPINION is wrong.

  • Brad

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    Get over it.

  • herman diaz

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    Jeezuz!! This whole post is horseshit!!! Beckham has been irrelevant since he left ManU. Who gives a shit about him?? Isn’t there someone better who can play his position on the England national team??

  • Brad

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    Could we please be a tad more respectful yall?
    Jake had a point about where MLS would be if Becks hadnt come. It wouldve been a failure, just like the NAPSL back in the 80’s.
    CFC Fan also has a good point… Becks seems to have a fait bit of pride, and it aint the good type of pride, either.
    Soccer Snob….. you are right bout Jake pullin shit out of his ass, but you might want to put a gas mask and some gloves and start looking through the shit… Jake has some points, as I already said.
    This discussion has gone on for an incred…… incredibly- haha- long time.
    It is time to end this debate.
    End of transmission. Over.

  • The Soccer Snob

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    The MLS isn’t exploiting him! Marketing the Beckham brand was the main reason they signed him, everyone involved knew this from the beginning. And do you think LA signed him to loan him out? His services would have been better utilized on MLS pitches. Jake, just admit your wrong and stop pulling this none sense out of your ass.

  • Chelsea FC Fan

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    Really and truly…i don’t think the MLS is any different with or without Beck’s. He sells jersey’s, he makes money and other people seem to be making money off of him…He is a gimmick with a mission to play for England. That is just my impression and I didn’t just wake up today and think that…since his arrival to the MLS, I was expecting something more to happen…I thought he would show more flair to win – be more competitive and rally the Galaxy to be better, maybe he might attract new talent to the MLS, maybe he might do something for football that we have yet to experience in North America…none of that has happened and his career in the MLS (to me) has been marred with ‘I want to go to Milan’, ‘I want to play for England’, ‘I want to extend my stay with Milan’, ‘I need to play for England’, ‘I have never been criticized by anyone else (this one kills me…apparently the Galaxy are not good enough to criticize him?)’…anyway, the point is there are a lot of “I’s” in there and nothing noteworthy of his commitment to the Galaxy.

    The MLS can stand on it’s own two feet without Beck’s. He should be sent packing to Milan so that the Galaxy can close this miserable chapter in their club history.

  • Jake

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    your right he is exploiting the MLS but its not like MLS is not exploiting him not to mention the 10 million they got JUST FOR the extended stay. so what is your point ? Beckham is playing soccer here or in Italy and everyone is getting paid.

  • The Soccer Snob

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    Aargh! Some of you people are so frustrating! Especially Jake the pea brain! Try to keep up Jake, the argument here isn’t if Becks is talented, or if he can sell tickets, (he obviously can, even though he’s overrated!) The argument is Becks puts his personal agenda before his team (I already proved this with Man U, Madrid, and LA). He’s exploiting the MLS. The point isn’t if he should have accepted a loan to Milan, but the extension he signed which overlapped with his initial teams season. We all agree Milan is far superior to LA, but if Becks originally signed on with LA, then as a man, he should honour that contract. And he knew from the beginning that playing in the US would hurt his chances with the Three Lions, so why is he acting surprised? Why can’t you people just admit he’s being a jerk to his original team, LA. Its so clear! He should never have signed on at Galaxy if he never intended to commit to them. But we have to remember how important Mr. Posh’s money is to him. It honestly blows my mind that some people don’t understand why people are pissed at him. I mean, he spent almost his entire career there telling everyone he’s leaving! Fuck, are you people blind!

  • Jake

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    tell me something Chelseafc fan, where would MLS be if beckham never came to here ?

    I give beckham alot of credit, he might not be his old self but that doesnt seem to matter much cause he still sells tickets and that makes money for everybody, and i dont know if you know beckham got paid alot but everyone who shedded money for beckham made it back the first year off sales and others crap. I remember going to Giants stadium to watch the now then metro stars and there was only a few thousand fans if that. Beckham shows up at the same stadium 50plus thousand without breaking a sweat. I bet if you had the chance you would go to your local stadium just see him, you and the other guy soccer whatever his name is.

    The MLS has decent players but honestly Beckham is still worth the most. You think Manu or Chelsea are going to approach the MLS and offer them 20 mil euros for the best player in our league emilo, juan pablo, conner? (whoever you think is hands down the best) even 10 million . Im not saying beckham is worth that cause honestly if they sold I have no Idea what he would cost but I believe without doubt he is the most expensive player in the MLS and thats why they paid them what they did.

  • Chelsea FC Fan

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    it’s an obvious case of misunderstanding…

    I was under the impression that Beck’s would actually have something more to offer to the Galaxy than his personal agenda and brand Beckham.

    i guess the expectations are just too high…and the salary…so be it tho – the dust has settled now, Beck’s has earned his spot on the team and I think everyone’s comfortable with it now…it will spark new life in to the Galaxy knowing where the leadership is coming from and knowing everyone’s role on the team. I don’t think the fans, and I guess teammates, were well aware of this upfront and maybe if there was someway to communicate his intentions upfront, there wouldn’t have been such a recent fuss about Beckham. But like I said…if you want to be loved by the fans and your teammates, you have to show sacrifice…personally, I don’t think Beckham cares b/c he has his own agenda…and there is nothing wrong with that, but I think everyone was just left in the dark a little too long before they figured it out.

  • Brad

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    Jesus save me! Is it a crime now to say that i word?
    CFC fan, the fact u aint showing any support/sympathy for Becks is ridiculous- no, I didnt use the other word- and Becks is being seriously misunderstood. I dont see why people go on bout him always so “uncommitted” when all he did was go on loan ( key word there: LOAN, not TRANSFER) to Milan. Also, It was in post-season.
    Personally, I am surprised anyone decided to hate him for his decision as I didnt, and none of the fans around here did either.

  • Chelsea FC Fan

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    Brad…you used incredulous in this post too…that’s incredulously twice now..haha!

    Personally, I don’t think Beck’s deserves anything…he’s exploiting (abusing) his leverage over the MLS and he’s walking around thinking that the Galaxy shouldn’t be questioning his professionalism…his ego does not correlate well with his level of play.

    I’m a firm believer that loyalty is to your club b/c they put the food on the table…some may say I have a slave mentality, and that doesn’t really sit well with me, but I cannot seem to look past that at the moment. He should have never come to North America if he wasn’t going to commit to it. There are guys busting their a$$ in the MLS (and Galaxy) for fractions (literally) of Beckham’s paycheque and he’s parading around about playing for England…where’s your head at man??? These guys used to look up to Beck’s but now they see right through him. What if he doesn’t make England now? Who will support him after these antics? The Galaxy was his baby to nurture and he abandoned them like a gambler leaves their child locked in a car at the casino (North American’s know about this plenty…haha).

    It’s sad to see the way he’s treated in the U.S., but at the same time, U.S. sports fans are no pushover and are very demanding of their athletes/heroes…I don’t have any sympathy for Beckham until he begins to show some sacrifice for the club.

  • Jake

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    snob everytime you open your mouth it is to take a huge cock in an out of it.

    but really your just a douche, your that guy that thinks hes mr. know it all. I can admit some of points were wrong and I dont have a problem being corrected.

  • The Soccer Snob

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    Jake, every time you open your mouth you prove how much of a numb skull you are.

  • Jake

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    you have points brad its that in from New york and the red bulls are sucking balls so im taking it out on the league.

  • Brad

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    I agree with everything Jake said in his first paragraph. But I must say that MLS is a great league and is one of the main reasons the U.S. has so many good players like Donovan and Ching and back in the past Wynalda and McBride, and is also the football equivalent of a train station for players to jump into Europe….
    In fact, fans of Aston Villa, Everton, and Fulham can thank MLS for Friedel, Howard, and Dempsey. You do have a few points about MLS’s faults but we can ignore them and enjoy the game itself in America.
    Coming back to the topic….
    Becks is far too disrespected. I mean look at how he has been attacked by fans of both the Galaxy and his own country( I refer to when the Red Coats insulted him by saying “ten brave lions’ -lol, only Gerrard and Rooney could be compared to such an animal- ” and one stupid boy.”
    More like a bunch of ridiculous papers and a few good footy players to me, when I think of the Brits.
    It is times like that when I dont take some biased people seriously.

  • Jake

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    but I dont understand why you are giving shit for wanting to play for the national team. you have points there snob but its a honor to play in the world cup for your nation and anyone who wants to do that I respect and understand. So when beckham goes to Milan oh well, MLS got money for it. The only people complaining is donovan and and disgruntled fans. LA is mad because milan wants to buy him ? boohoo tell LA its a part of soccer. Look at how real madrid are pounding at xavi alonso when rafa benitez said he wasnt going nowhere or how they were targeting ribery after bayern said no.

    Besides that MLS has the stupidst league in the WORLD
    I hate how the MLS gives the teams there players and they arent aloud to go and pick there on guys. Thats why the MLS SUCKS and will always be shit.

    Like how they all chipped in for Becks, its true he does get attendance numbers but if LA wanted him then they should ne held accountable not the whole fucking league. seriously the league has been around quite a while and I think they should really change that for the better of the league.

  • The Soccer Snob

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    Stop this insanity!!!

  • Brad

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    Why do so many of you disrespect Becks? Sure he aint as great as everyone says but you have to admit that he is very talented. I dont have a clue as to why yall got to be so prejudiced. It is clear that he left in pre-season, and came back at half season, he still has time to make up for runnin out, so why do yall gotta stick ur boots up his…… dont get me started. Returning at half season shows he still has a few games ahead of him.
    And another thing that is off topic but I’ll post anyway….. everyone needs to stop being immature and insulting other footy fans. I aint pointin the finger at anyone, I’d just like it if yall would stop the madness.

  • The Soccer Snob

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    Jake, your a nitwit. You should take what I write and consider it as gospel! YOU are the one that clearly has no understanding of the whole story. It really annoys me when simpletons like you write your stupid comments, which demonstrates your complete disregard for fact.

    Do you know why Becks and Fergie were having problems? Let me educate you. Its because by this time Becks had married Posh, and he turned into Mr.Hollywood, worrying more about his endorsements and media image than showing up for practice and playing for his team (in other words, his money came first). If he cared so much about his childhood club, Man U would have come before any of that, and these problems would never have happened. So instead of working things out to stay at the club he “loved” he went to Madrid where he received more money and a better control over his image rights ($$$).

    Aside from the last half of his last season at Madrid, he was useless during his time there, at least on the field he was.

    THEN, when he saw a better deal in MLS, he leaves Madrid and signs a contract without letting Madrid know… Dirty pirate move!

    So now his allegiance is with LA Galaxie, and why? Simple, more money, more endorsements, and even more freedom with his image rights ($$$$). So let me stress this point: he committed to LA, knowing damn well he still wanted to play for England. So if his ultimate loyalty is with the Three Lions, why did he join a team in an inferior league knowing his chances would be severely lowered of playing for England? Because he wrote into his contract the right to call the shots, and control where he plays. So he knew from the beginning that he would screw over LA, all the while he’s collecting a pay cheque from them.

    And yes, LA and MLS are complaining Jake, you pee brain. LA is furious of Becks extended move to Milan, and Milans attempt to buy him. And every team in MLS is pissed because in order to finance Becks transfer to America, every team had to pay about $2 million to Mr. Posh. ALSO, all these teams were counting on sold out stadiums when they hosted LA and Becks, instead he greedily manipulated the MLS and only returned for the final few games of the season.

    And Jake, you overwhelmingly show your ignorance with your Ronaldo comment. Its well documented that Ronaldo has wanted to play for Madrid from a young age, and Fergie knew he could only hang on to him for so long before making his dream move. They hold no antimosoty towards each other, and Ronaldo even calls Fergie his “father in football”. If you say they had problems because Ronaldo criticized Fergies tactics in the CL final, that was only the words of a defeated champion after a big match. CR9 is a winner, of course he’s pissed when he loses, but he wasn’t transferred because of that insignificant comment.

    I didn’t think an educated footy fan like you would need such a break down to see my point Jake. Next time, instead of sounding off like a douch bag about you something you know nothing about, ask yourself “should a dummy like me be posting an ignorant comment on a subject I’m clueless on?”.

  • Jake

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    and this is for Soccer SNob

    He left because of problems with the coach sir alex also one of the reasons that led to the selling of Ronaldo to real madrid.

    Its like alot of people here make comments and really dont know the whole story. Its like everyone came in with the Beckham Bandwagon and doesnt know shit about the sport and just make comments that they pull out of there pocket

  • Jake

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    To Hoffman

    He went to AC because the Coach said anyone not playing soccer year round would not be called up. Beckham Wants to play in the WC next year that why he went away on loan. And so you know Becks wont be playing the olympics most Teams bring there under 23 squads with one or two senior players.

    Why is everyone complaining so much ? you dont hear the galaxy or MLS complaining they got paid and got an additional 10 mil for him staying till the end of the season.

    Yes I agree Beckham hasnt entirely lived up to the hype here but he cant do everything. They need to assemble a better squad to surround him and donovan which they have been doing lately, hopefully they continue.

    but you can give beckham credit because just his name alone has brought more popularity to the sport here.

    I think he does deserve more respect some people just dont understand he had to go on loan to stay elgible for his nations 2010 WC run, it was his choice to stay longer but who wouldnt ?????????? would you leave Itay’s seria A playing for AC milan to come back and play for the galaxy ?

  • The Soccer Snob

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    Prove me wrong then kukaka. No matter how you sugar coat it, Beckham is a pure mercenary.

  • kukaka

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    With a post like that its no wonder I take biased people like you seriously.

    … Sorry Soccer Snob but thats how it goes….

  • The Soccer Snob

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    Pfffft! He’s grossly overrated, just like most English players. He’s a perfect example of why the English don’t leave the prem. He’s terribly average.

  • Brad

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    It is clear that there are many L.A. Galaxy fans out here….
    I admit I was angry at Becks when he left, but I dont hold grudges for long. U people shouldnt either.
    Becks was a great player in his prime, anyone who disagrees is a incredulously stupid douche bag… sorry but that would be a good description(:)) and even the Galaxy fans otta forgive and forget.
    Hoffman, I would like to say that all of the most popular players get a fair amount of hype, and of course, Becks aint that youngster from ManU anymore, so he hasnt been able to live up to expectations.

    When it comes down to it…. Becks is far too disrespected…..

  • The Soccer Snob

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    Oh yeah, and one more thing, he was never that great either!

  • The Soccer Snob

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    I’m so glad hoffman made all those points, exactly what I was gonna say. Mr. Posh only chases glory and self interest. If I grew up loving Man U, then became a starter for them, I would never leave to any other team, ever! But Becks wasn’t happy with the millions in England, his ego needed even more. Imagine Raul leaving Madrid, or Puyol leaving Barca for more money.Never!( Although the offers were there) Beckhams greed has always left a bad taste in my mouth. And Galaxy fans should be pissed, Beckham turned his back on them, then stated he wanted to stay in Milan, giving his team and new fans the two finger salut, then wonders “why don’t they like me?”

  • Hoffman

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    If it is true that Beckham has failed to live up to MLS expectations and delivering the Galaxy and American sports fans a quality player, then the fans have every right to hold him with discontent. Let’s face it, he hasn’t lived up to the hype. He got hurt his first year from a tackle from behind; but he wasn’t fully recovered when he first arrived.

    I disagree, Beck’s doesn’t deserve more respect because he missed half of the season and played his loyalties toward his personal goals and not his team’s goals in LA.

    Therefore, if I agree he should have went to AC and worked toward preparing for his country’s success in 2010 and 2012 Olympics, then he really needs to work on his penalty kicks. He could try out for the New Orleans Saints as a field goal kicker.

    I also feel the Becks/Donnovan media frenzy has benefited MLS and put the spotlight in soccer back in America.

    In final, soccer in America is growing in popularity. Unfortunately for the rest of the world we are coming and charging strong with our national team. I don’t think Spain or Brazil will overlook The US team as they previously have for over a century. Becks doesn’t deserve more respect, he deserves less respect for foregoing his initial agreements to the fans in LA who had every right to boo and scold him. Try to imagine Tom Brady or Dan Marino playing half a season because they wanted to play for the NFL Europe to promote NFL Europe. Fans in New England or Miami would feel cheated especially after finding our after purchasing season tickets that the “star” you wanted to watch wouldn’t be playing for half the season. It’s kinda like the NFL playing in London…..another topic to be heavily considered if the NFL cares about it’s fans in the US.

  • Gooner-11

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    obviously?
    right, so milan only took him for money and didnt play him?
    plus, big teams still seem to be into him – according to the press anyways.

    but like i said, dont really care about beckham… so i dont care about the galaxy or team england or your opinion on who the best coach is. i wanted to answer the original discussion question, which you still haven’t. actually, you didnt answer my question to you either.

  • Hans

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    Obviously, gooner-11 does not know that Mr.Beckam paid AC Milan for his stay in Milan. Considering the actual financial situation of AC Milan, it made sense of getting someone that will push the merchandises sales up especially in Asia.

    I hope you have seen his latest “performances” with the national team and I might say that he is less than mediocre. I will exchange him gladly even with Matterazzi (lol). In addition, I would like to ask what contribution he gave to LA or AC Milanor even Real? The best coach in the world, Mr.Capello wanted him ot and kept him on the bench.

    However, in his credit, he didpush AC Milan’s sales up……. in Asia.

  • Snoman

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    Beckham was great in his prime but really jus feel off a mountain going into his later years. But it is a disgrace to what hes doing to the MLS and galaxy. This guy should stand outside the clubhouse 24/7 handing out galaxy flyers for the amount of money their paying him. UNless he REALLY starts pproducing on the pitch WHICH HE HAS NOT AT ALL this whole experiment will have been a complete waste of time for US soccer and the Galaxy. But at least beckhams still makin ends meat right

  • Gooner-11

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    TO ANSWER THE QUESTION
    he definately deserves more respect. anyone/everyone must.
    obviously his loan move to milan would have caused this to some extent, which i am sure beckham fully expected, but in my silly opinion these fans have gone overboard. the fact that he knew this would happen makes him brave if you ask me, and i dont even really like him much.
    but, hans, if he had no quality would big teams be interested in him?
    i dont think so.

  • Hans

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    Beckham is an overrated player. Even in his “prime” he was an average player and “yes” for that amount of money he must be ore dedicated to Galaxy. His fiasco in italian league shows that he has nothing left (assuming that he had something), so he is better off selling jerseys and drinks.

  • Waleade Silvers

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    A great footballer and an excellent professional.

  • Waleade Silvers

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    A great footballer and an excellent professional.

  • Hans

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    Beckham is an overrated player. Even in his “prime” he was an average player and “yes” for that amount of money he must be ore dedicated to Galaxy. His fiasco in italian league shows that he has nothing left (assuming that he had something), so he is better off selling jerseys and drinks.

  • Gooner-11

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    TO ANSWER THE QUESTION
    he definately deserves more respect. anyone/everyone must.
    obviously his loan move to milan would have caused this to some extent, which i am sure beckham fully expected, but in my silly opinion these fans have gone overboard. the fact that he knew this would happen makes him brave if you ask me, and i dont even really like him much.
    but, hans, if he had no quality would big teams be interested in him?
    i dont think so.

  • Snoman

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    Beckham was great in his prime but really jus feel off a mountain going into his later years. But it is a disgrace to what hes doing to the MLS and galaxy. This guy should stand outside the clubhouse 24/7 handing out galaxy flyers for the amount of money their paying him. UNless he REALLY starts pproducing on the pitch WHICH HE HAS NOT AT ALL this whole experiment will have been a complete waste of time for US soccer and the Galaxy. But at least beckhams still makin ends meat right

  • Hans

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    Obviously, gooner-11 does not know that Mr.Beckam paid AC Milan for his stay in Milan. Considering the actual financial situation of AC Milan, it made sense of getting someone that will push the merchandises sales up especially in Asia.

    I hope you have seen his latest “performances” with the national team and I might say that he is less than mediocre. I will exchange him gladly even with Matterazzi (lol). In addition, I would like to ask what contribution he gave to LA or AC Milanor even Real? The best coach in the world, Mr.Capello wanted him ot and kept him on the bench.

    However, in his credit, he didpush AC Milan’s sales up……. in Asia.

  • Gooner-11

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    obviously?
    right, so milan only took him for money and didnt play him?
    plus, big teams still seem to be into him – according to the press anyways.

    but like i said, dont really care about beckham… so i dont care about the galaxy or team england or your opinion on who the best coach is. i wanted to answer the original discussion question, which you still haven’t. actually, you didnt answer my question to you either.

  • Hoffman

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    If it is true that Beckham has failed to live up to MLS expectations and delivering the Galaxy and American sports fans a quality player, then the fans have every right to hold him with discontent. Let’s face it, he hasn’t lived up to the hype. He got hurt his first year from a tackle from behind; but he wasn’t fully recovered when he first arrived.

    I disagree, Beck’s doesn’t deserve more respect because he missed half of the season and played his loyalties toward his personal goals and not his team’s goals in LA.

    Therefore, if I agree he should have went to AC and worked toward preparing for his country’s success in 2010 and 2012 Olympics, then he really needs to work on his penalty kicks. He could try out for the New Orleans Saints as a field goal kicker.

    I also feel the Becks/Donnovan media frenzy has benefited MLS and put the spotlight in soccer back in America.

    In final, soccer in America is growing in popularity. Unfortunately for the rest of the world we are coming and charging strong with our national team. I don’t think Spain or Brazil will overlook The US team as they previously have for over a century. Becks doesn’t deserve more respect, he deserves less respect for foregoing his initial agreements to the fans in LA who had every right to boo and scold him. Try to imagine Tom Brady or Dan Marino playing half a season because they wanted to play for the NFL Europe to promote NFL Europe. Fans in New England or Miami would feel cheated especially after finding our after purchasing season tickets that the “star” you wanted to watch wouldn’t be playing for half the season. It’s kinda like the NFL playing in London…..another topic to be heavily considered if the NFL cares about it’s fans in the US.

  • The Soccer Snob

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    I’m so glad hoffman made all those points, exactly what I was gonna say. Mr. Posh only chases glory and self interest. If I grew up loving Man U, then became a starter for them, I would never leave to any other team, ever! But Becks wasn’t happy with the millions in England, his ego needed even more. Imagine Raul leaving Madrid, or Puyol leaving Barca for more money.Never!( Although the offers were there) Beckhams greed has always left a bad taste in my mouth. And Galaxy fans should be pissed, Beckham turned his back on them, then stated he wanted to stay in Milan, giving his team and new fans the two finger salut, then wonders “why don’t they like me?”

  • The Soccer Snob

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    Oh yeah, and one more thing, he was never that great either!

  • Brad

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    It is clear that there are many L.A. Galaxy fans out here….
    I admit I was angry at Becks when he left, but I dont hold grudges for long. U people shouldnt either.
    Becks was a great player in his prime, anyone who disagrees is a incredulously stupid douche bag… sorry but that would be a good description(:)) and even the Galaxy fans otta forgive and forget.
    Hoffman, I would like to say that all of the most popular players get a fair amount of hype, and of course, Becks aint that youngster from ManU anymore, so he hasnt been able to live up to expectations.

    When it comes down to it…. Becks is far too disrespected…..

  • The Soccer Snob

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    Pfffft! He’s grossly overrated, just like most English players. He’s a perfect example of why the English don’t leave the prem. He’s terribly average.

  • kukaka

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    With a post like that its no wonder I take biased people like you seriously.

    … Sorry Soccer Snob but thats how it goes….

  • The Soccer Snob

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    Prove me wrong then kukaka. No matter how you sugar coat it, Beckham is a pure mercenary.

  • Jake

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    To Hoffman

    He went to AC because the Coach said anyone not playing soccer year round would not be called up. Beckham Wants to play in the WC next year that why he went away on loan. And so you know Becks wont be playing the olympics most Teams bring there under 23 squads with one or two senior players.

    Why is everyone complaining so much ? you dont hear the galaxy or MLS complaining they got paid and got an additional 10 mil for him staying till the end of the season.

    Yes I agree Beckham hasnt entirely lived up to the hype here but he cant do everything. They need to assemble a better squad to surround him and donovan which they have been doing lately, hopefully they continue.

    but you can give beckham credit because just his name alone has brought more popularity to the sport here.

    I think he does deserve more respect some people just dont understand he had to go on loan to stay elgible for his nations 2010 WC run, it was his choice to stay longer but who wouldnt ?????????? would you leave Itay’s seria A playing for AC milan to come back and play for the galaxy ?

  • Jake

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    and this is for Soccer SNob

    He left because of problems with the coach sir alex also one of the reasons that led to the selling of Ronaldo to real madrid.

    Its like alot of people here make comments and really dont know the whole story. Its like everyone came in with the Beckham Bandwagon and doesnt know shit about the sport and just make comments that they pull out of there pocket

  • The Soccer Snob

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    Jake, your a nitwit. You should take what I write and consider it as gospel! YOU are the one that clearly has no understanding of the whole story. It really annoys me when simpletons like you write your stupid comments, which demonstrates your complete disregard for fact.

    Do you know why Becks and Fergie were having problems? Let me educate you. Its because by this time Becks had married Posh, and he turned into Mr.Hollywood, worrying more about his endorsements and media image than showing up for practice and playing for his team (in other words, his money came first). If he cared so much about his childhood club, Man U would have come before any of that, and these problems would never have happened. So instead of working things out to stay at the club he “loved” he went to Madrid where he received more money and a better control over his image rights ($$$).

    Aside from the last half of his last season at Madrid, he was useless during his time there, at least on the field he was.

    THEN, when he saw a better deal in MLS, he leaves Madrid and signs a contract without letting Madrid know… Dirty pirate move!

    So now his allegiance is with LA Galaxie, and why? Simple, more money, more endorsements, and even more freedom with his image rights ($$$$). So let me stress this point: he committed to LA, knowing damn well he still wanted to play for England. So if his ultimate loyalty is with the Three Lions, why did he join a team in an inferior league knowing his chances would be severely lowered of playing for England? Because he wrote into his contract the right to call the shots, and control where he plays. So he knew from the beginning that he would screw over LA, all the while he’s collecting a pay cheque from them.

    And yes, LA and MLS are complaining Jake, you pee brain. LA is furious of Becks extended move to Milan, and Milans attempt to buy him. And every team in MLS is pissed because in order to finance Becks transfer to America, every team had to pay about $2 million to Mr. Posh. ALSO, all these teams were counting on sold out stadiums when they hosted LA and Becks, instead he greedily manipulated the MLS and only returned for the final few games of the season.

    And Jake, you overwhelmingly show your ignorance with your Ronaldo comment. Its well documented that Ronaldo has wanted to play for Madrid from a young age, and Fergie knew he could only hang on to him for so long before making his dream move. They hold no antimosoty towards each other, and Ronaldo even calls Fergie his “father in football”. If you say they had problems because Ronaldo criticized Fergies tactics in the CL final, that was only the words of a defeated champion after a big match. CR9 is a winner, of course he’s pissed when he loses, but he wasn’t transferred because of that insignificant comment.

    I didn’t think an educated footy fan like you would need such a break down to see my point Jake. Next time, instead of sounding off like a douch bag about you something you know nothing about, ask yourself “should a dummy like me be posting an ignorant comment on a subject I’m clueless on?”.

  • Brad

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    Why do so many of you disrespect Becks? Sure he aint as great as everyone says but you have to admit that he is very talented. I dont have a clue as to why yall got to be so prejudiced. It is clear that he left in pre-season, and came back at half season, he still has time to make up for runnin out, so why do yall gotta stick ur boots up his…… dont get me started. Returning at half season shows he still has a few games ahead of him.
    And another thing that is off topic but I’ll post anyway….. everyone needs to stop being immature and insulting other footy fans. I aint pointin the finger at anyone, I’d just like it if yall would stop the madness.

  • The Soccer Snob

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    Stop this insanity!!!

  • Jake

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    but I dont understand why you are giving shit for wanting to play for the national team. you have points there snob but its a honor to play in the world cup for your nation and anyone who wants to do that I respect and understand. So when beckham goes to Milan oh well, MLS got money for it. The only people complaining is donovan and and disgruntled fans. LA is mad because milan wants to buy him ? boohoo tell LA its a part of soccer. Look at how real madrid are pounding at xavi alonso when rafa benitez said he wasnt going nowhere or how they were targeting ribery after bayern said no.

    Besides that MLS has the stupidst league in the WORLD
    I hate how the MLS gives the teams there players and they arent aloud to go and pick there on guys. Thats why the MLS SUCKS and will always be shit.

    Like how they all chipped in for Becks, its true he does get attendance numbers but if LA wanted him then they should ne held accountable not the whole fucking league. seriously the league has been around quite a while and I think they should really change that for the better of the league.

  • Brad

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    I agree with everything Jake said in his first paragraph. But I must say that MLS is a great league and is one of the main reasons the U.S. has so many good players like Donovan and Ching and back in the past Wynalda and McBride, and is also the football equivalent of a train station for players to jump into Europe….
    In fact, fans of Aston Villa, Everton, and Fulham can thank MLS for Friedel, Howard, and Dempsey. You do have a few points about MLS’s faults but we can ignore them and enjoy the game itself in America.
    Coming back to the topic….
    Becks is far too disrespected. I mean look at how he has been attacked by fans of both the Galaxy and his own country( I refer to when the Red Coats insulted him by saying “ten brave lions’ -lol, only Gerrard and Rooney could be compared to such an animal- ” and one stupid boy.”
    More like a bunch of ridiculous papers and a few good footy players to me, when I think of the Brits.
    It is times like that when I dont take some biased people seriously.

  • Jake

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    you have points brad its that in from New york and the red bulls are sucking balls so im taking it out on the league.

  • The Soccer Snob

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    Jake, every time you open your mouth you prove how much of a numb skull you are.

  • Jake

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    snob everytime you open your mouth it is to take a huge cock in an out of it.

    but really your just a douche, your that guy that thinks hes mr. know it all. I can admit some of points were wrong and I dont have a problem being corrected.

  • Chelsea FC Fan

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    Brad…you used incredulous in this post too…that’s incredulously twice now..haha!

    Personally, I don’t think Beck’s deserves anything…he’s exploiting (abusing) his leverage over the MLS and he’s walking around thinking that the Galaxy shouldn’t be questioning his professionalism…his ego does not correlate well with his level of play.

    I’m a firm believer that loyalty is to your club b/c they put the food on the table…some may say I have a slave mentality, and that doesn’t really sit well with me, but I cannot seem to look past that at the moment. He should have never come to North America if he wasn’t going to commit to it. There are guys busting their a$$ in the MLS (and Galaxy) for fractions (literally) of Beckham’s paycheque and he’s parading around about playing for England…where’s your head at man??? These guys used to look up to Beck’s but now they see right through him. What if he doesn’t make England now? Who will support him after these antics? The Galaxy was his baby to nurture and he abandoned them like a gambler leaves their child locked in a car at the casino (North American’s know about this plenty…haha).

    It’s sad to see the way he’s treated in the U.S., but at the same time, U.S. sports fans are no pushover and are very demanding of their athletes/heroes…I don’t have any sympathy for Beckham until he begins to show some sacrifice for the club.

  • Brad

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    Jesus save me! Is it a crime now to say that i word?
    CFC fan, the fact u aint showing any support/sympathy for Becks is ridiculous- no, I didnt use the other word- and Becks is being seriously misunderstood. I dont see why people go on bout him always so “uncommitted” when all he did was go on loan ( key word there: LOAN, not TRANSFER) to Milan. Also, It was in post-season.
    Personally, I am surprised anyone decided to hate him for his decision as I didnt, and none of the fans around here did either.

  • Chelsea FC Fan

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    it’s an obvious case of misunderstanding…

    I was under the impression that Beck’s would actually have something more to offer to the Galaxy than his personal agenda and brand Beckham.

    i guess the expectations are just too high…and the salary…so be it tho – the dust has settled now, Beck’s has earned his spot on the team and I think everyone’s comfortable with it now…it will spark new life in to the Galaxy knowing where the leadership is coming from and knowing everyone’s role on the team. I don’t think the fans, and I guess teammates, were well aware of this upfront and maybe if there was someway to communicate his intentions upfront, there wouldn’t have been such a recent fuss about Beckham. But like I said…if you want to be loved by the fans and your teammates, you have to show sacrifice…personally, I don’t think Beckham cares b/c he has his own agenda…and there is nothing wrong with that, but I think everyone was just left in the dark a little too long before they figured it out.

  • Jake

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    tell me something Chelseafc fan, where would MLS be if beckham never came to here ?

    I give beckham alot of credit, he might not be his old self but that doesnt seem to matter much cause he still sells tickets and that makes money for everybody, and i dont know if you know beckham got paid alot but everyone who shedded money for beckham made it back the first year off sales and others crap. I remember going to Giants stadium to watch the now then metro stars and there was only a few thousand fans if that. Beckham shows up at the same stadium 50plus thousand without breaking a sweat. I bet if you had the chance you would go to your local stadium just see him, you and the other guy soccer whatever his name is.

    The MLS has decent players but honestly Beckham is still worth the most. You think Manu or Chelsea are going to approach the MLS and offer them 20 mil euros for the best player in our league emilo, juan pablo, conner? (whoever you think is hands down the best) even 10 million . Im not saying beckham is worth that cause honestly if they sold I have no Idea what he would cost but I believe without doubt he is the most expensive player in the MLS and thats why they paid them what they did.

  • The Soccer Snob

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    Aargh! Some of you people are so frustrating! Especially Jake the pea brain! Try to keep up Jake, the argument here isn’t if Becks is talented, or if he can sell tickets, (he obviously can, even though he’s overrated!) The argument is Becks puts his personal agenda before his team (I already proved this with Man U, Madrid, and LA). He’s exploiting the MLS. The point isn’t if he should have accepted a loan to Milan, but the extension he signed which overlapped with his initial teams season. We all agree Milan is far superior to LA, but if Becks originally signed on with LA, then as a man, he should honour that contract. And he knew from the beginning that playing in the US would hurt his chances with the Three Lions, so why is he acting surprised? Why can’t you people just admit he’s being a jerk to his original team, LA. Its so clear! He should never have signed on at Galaxy if he never intended to commit to them. But we have to remember how important Mr. Posh’s money is to him. It honestly blows my mind that some people don’t understand why people are pissed at him. I mean, he spent almost his entire career there telling everyone he’s leaving! Fuck, are you people blind!

  • Jake

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    your right he is exploiting the MLS but its not like MLS is not exploiting him not to mention the 10 million they got JUST FOR the extended stay. so what is your point ? Beckham is playing soccer here or in Italy and everyone is getting paid.

  • Chelsea FC Fan

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    Really and truly…i don’t think the MLS is any different with or without Beck’s. He sells jersey’s, he makes money and other people seem to be making money off of him…He is a gimmick with a mission to play for England. That is just my impression and I didn’t just wake up today and think that…since his arrival to the MLS, I was expecting something more to happen…I thought he would show more flair to win – be more competitive and rally the Galaxy to be better, maybe he might attract new talent to the MLS, maybe he might do something for football that we have yet to experience in North America…none of that has happened and his career in the MLS (to me) has been marred with ‘I want to go to Milan’, ‘I want to play for England’, ‘I want to extend my stay with Milan’, ‘I need to play for England’, ‘I have never been criticized by anyone else (this one kills me…apparently the Galaxy are not good enough to criticize him?)’…anyway, the point is there are a lot of “I’s” in there and nothing noteworthy of his commitment to the Galaxy.

    The MLS can stand on it’s own two feet without Beck’s. He should be sent packing to Milan so that the Galaxy can close this miserable chapter in their club history.

  • The Soccer Snob

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    The MLS isn’t exploiting him! Marketing the Beckham brand was the main reason they signed him, everyone involved knew this from the beginning. And do you think LA signed him to loan him out? His services would have been better utilized on MLS pitches. Jake, just admit your wrong and stop pulling this none sense out of your ass.

  • Brad

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    Could we please be a tad more respectful yall?
    Jake had a point about where MLS would be if Becks hadnt come. It wouldve been a failure, just like the NAPSL back in the 80’s.
    CFC Fan also has a good point… Becks seems to have a fait bit of pride, and it aint the good type of pride, either.
    Soccer Snob….. you are right bout Jake pullin shit out of his ass, but you might want to put a gas mask and some gloves and start looking through the shit… Jake has some points, as I already said.
    This discussion has gone on for an incred…… incredibly- haha- long time.
    It is time to end this debate.
    End of transmission. Over.

  • herman diaz

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    Jeezuz!! This whole post is horseshit!!! Beckham has been irrelevant since he left ManU. Who gives a shit about him?? Isn’t there someone better who can play his position on the England national team??

  • Brad

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    Get over it.

  • Jake

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    sorry snoob I dont know how to this say this BUT, why the fuck why I admit I am wrong ? its my opinion dumbass ! you have your points and then you dont so get your head out of your ass, I know im not always right but I never thought my whole OPINION is wrong.

  • The Soccer Snob

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    You are wrong, so keep it to yourself.

  • Chelsea FC Fan

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    haha…

    Snob…why u giving Jake such a hard time.

    Snob (and myself) are saying Beck’s puts his personal agenda before anything else. Jake (and company) are implying that Beckham is doing what he can to help the MLS. Both are true…does Beckham deserve more respect from the Galaxy/MLS fans for doing these things?

    Once again – NO! He already gets the respect he deserves and I don’t think anyone owes Beckham more than that. He gets to do whatever he wants to do while promoting the MLS. The Galaxy fans only intensified the locker room drama and they are not to blame…Donovan is the one to show a bit more respect as he himself said that he should have not called Beckham out in public like that (but I think it was a good move to get Beck’s on the same page again). The fans felt that frustration and took it out on Beck’s. So, in a sense, Beck’s deserves a little more from the team (and the team thinks they deserve more from Beck’s)…but nobody else owes Beck’s anything. The fans felt betrayed for good reason and they let it be known.

  • Jake

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    Lol thank you Chelsea fan, I don’t even think snoop realizes it’s a opinion on which I am sidin for beckham and he is not so we will have our arguments an such.

  • The Soccer Snob

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    Jake, don’t be such a whiner! If you weren’t ready to go to war, you shouldn’t have called me out! I was minding my own business, then you targeted me by stating I don’t know the whole story and I’m pulling shit out of my ass. Its not my fault my cock is bigger than yours.

    Have your opinion, I don’t care, but if your going to come here and sound off on topics you don’t know about, prepare to defend your position, or else I’ll come down on you.

  • Chelsea FC Fan

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    lol…omg Snob..ur too much. Good point tho and I will take it in to consideration myself.

  • Jake

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    look snoop just cause your wife told you that you got a big one doesnt always mean its true.
    Cause when shes with me she tells me the same and also that you got the little guy.

    Who said I wasnt defending my opinion ? what ,you didnt read the 50 million post ? I wasnt going off topic either little dick, those are the reasons why I believe that he deserves more credit cockface so thats why I mentioned them. okay soccerpoop I dont know what else to tell you but stop acting like a little cunt and have a good day

  • The Soccer Snob

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    Jake! What the hell are you still doing here?!? If you call invalid, false, and imaginary points a “defense” then you should go back to school. My point is that you only pull shit out of your ass, so continuing any further is pointless because your delusional.

  • Ram

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    Hey guys,to those unrightful critic please! for once don’t critisize as if you all know everything.If you all guys are in his shoes IT MIGHT BE WORST THAN WHAT THAN WHAT BECKHAM DID!

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