Who will win La Liga?

mumumeah….. when will WW3 end? The nuclear bombs wont stop exploding, the cannons keep on selling,and the AK-47s wont stop chattering away…
hehe.
Mr. Van Persie, if you dont mind me calling yu that, this aint p%$$ing match no more…. it is WW3 between Snob and that herman douche bag. And this sure aint the place to insult people, especially with the snob round here… hes slamming people left and right.
As I have said before, I wont be surprised if barca wins again… though I hope they dont get the treble again… uh that kills me… but I wont be surprised at all if Real gets vengeance, either…. never before in the 11 years of me being a footie and ManU fan, which means I was 3 when I started being a Red Devil, (and no, not because of the trophies, that didnt mean anything to me back then… there has always been somin about ManU- just hearing the name- that stirs somin in my blood, literally) have I ever seen what looks like a completely open contest between two clubs as this… if WW3 ever ends here on this article, the Barca v. Real Madrid derbies will WW4 on steroids. Wo man, like I said in my last post, la liga is certainly THE liga to watch this season.

Babies? Why are you being so mean Gooner? This isn’t the place for insults!

Ps I hope the Dutchies stay with the exeption of Royston and Van der Vaart.

well, i wont pretend to know who will win it all, but i suppose if Madrid start clicking right away, they would definately be the favorite. not to say that barca wont have anything to say about it…and villareal atletico valencia sevilla are still no pushovers…

my dutch blood still feels a bit bad for all the dutchies stuck on Madrid, but surely they would have seen this coming and should well have known better…what a mess. what is pellegrini thinking taking that one on…oh yea.. cha ching! haha
but seriously, its probably his head if they dont come through…
im suppose inclined to not like Madrid becuase i cant really appreciate how they’ve been doing things, but theres no rule against buying up all the best players you can, so what can you really say.

be a man? wtf is that bullshit!?!

hahaha, what a bunch of babies.

this is not a discusion anymore, this a pissing match.
good posting guys, really intelligent.

Your getting pretty sad Herman. You speak of “pummeling” and “smashing” but even you have to realize everything you say is baseless and false. Above is documented evidence of your total ignorance on the subject, its there in black and white for the world to see. Anyone with half a brain can enter a Google search and see your WRONG on all fronts. I’m surprised that after all the punishment I’ve put you through that you haven’t followed up on these subjects. Do you need me to post links that categorically prove my arguments trump yours? Well, that’s not going to happen because if your too stupid and lazy to look into it yourself, then you deserve to be stupid and lazy.

I’m sure that you DO realize your WRONG, (let’s be real, you’ve gotten A LOT of things incorrect) but you just enjoy putting up this fake resistance because I AM an asshole. Its true. I’m a prick lol would you expect anything less from a Snob? But I act the way I do because I’m RIGHT and your drawing attention to yourself with rediculous posts. Don’t feel bad, its my job to know more than you.

Since you obviously don’t have friends that know football to help you and you don’t watch football programs where experts might enlighten you, let’s consider your Galacticos argument and see what makes more sense.

You contend the Galacticos only existed when Figo, Zidane, Ronaldo, and Beckham played together (even though Madrid was already star studded with legends such as Raul and Carlos…). Let’s explore further. This squad only lasted two years, from 2003-2005 (Becks arrived in summer 2003, Figo left summer 2005). So by your logic, the two times Madrid broke the transfer record to buy Figo and Zidane doesn’t factor in your interpretation of when the Galacticos existed. So, when Figo and Zidane helped win two Liga’s, one Champions League, and more, they weren’t Galacticos… Ronaldo also arrives in 2002, subsequently winning La Liga that year, but he’s not a Galactico yet either? So, Madrid, under your misguided opinion were only “Galacticos” two years, in which they didn’t win any trophies. Your whole argument is based on these TWO years they didn’t contribute to the trophy cabinet. Now I have a question for you, after Barca’s CL triumph in 2006, what did they win in 2007 and 2008? Nothing! Heaven forbid a team go two full years without winning a title! You should have agreed with me from the beginning, because I say Madrid were unsuccessful for three years (2003-2006)! Do you see the massive flaw in your “opinion”? I can’t paint a clearer picture for you, if you still don’t get it, you should get your head checked!

From the very beginning, all I have said to you is that this Galacticos era has learned from the original, and is solid in every position. I never proclaimed to you that they will win it all this year (even though I believe they have it in them to do it, if they function as a unit). Your the retard that doesn’t comprehend the term Galactico and needed a break down of this period in Madrids history.

You simply make no sense, I don’t even know why your bringing other teams into the equation now. The only team in question, from the beginning, is Madrid, not Barca, Milan, or Man U.

The game against Real, well I didn’t bother getting to it last time because of all your dumb comments, it was one of the least compelling. However, I see your calling me out on it, probably because you failed to prove any valid points elsewhere, and see this as me ducking you. In reality, your just making dumb points. I did miss that game because its a friendly and I had other work to do. But from the highlights, I saw two teams that didn’t get into top gear, but a Madrid that controlled most of the match (especially the second half). And I saw a Madrid that blanked their opponents and won 2-0. If this is your most relevant point, you should have quit a long time ago.

Its important to note, I’m not using opinion to prove you WRONG, I deal in facts, using dates and statistics. You don’t offer any real substance to any of your arguments. Pure opinion. And opinions can clearly be wrong, especially if I show you where your wrong and why. At least you were able to admit your WRONG on Madrids financial success during the Galacticos era, and realize Man U’s debt problem. But how you desperately beg me to concede to you after you once again fail to PROVE your point, is sad indeed.

Another thing your clearly WRONG about is Gago as a whole (meaning: you don’t know anything about him) and his value to Madrid (your welcome for teaching you the concept of depth). I’d like to hear you back track out of that one too.

And Makelele, well if you got off your lazy ass and did some research on him, you would see his importance, and the high standard his teammates and coaches regarded him with. Not just at Madrid but Chelsea too. But I’m not about to write out all of his honours for you. And the fact you didn’t know he left CFC for PSG demonstrates your casual approach to football, but you talk as if your an authority on the sport. An interesting point to remember is that Madrids misfortunes coincide with Makelele’s departure and Beckhams arrival…

Pellegrini took a club smaller than Osasuna, and definatly smaller than Atletico to a CL semi final. Greater than anything Aguirre ever did with those two teams. And you say Villarreal isn’t on a budget? They have quality players like Senna, Capdevila, Pires… That are in the twilight of their careers and won’t sign another big contract anywhere. Rossi is quality, but Pellegrini saw his class and snapped him up cheap before he became a star, same with Mati. And the reason they have more buying power than Osasuna (as if that’s hard to accomplish) is thanks to Pellegrini and how he guided Villarreal to consistent top half finishes in the league, and CL qualification. But compare his budget to that of other CL teams, they’re hardly on level terms.

Why do you resist me so much Herman? Aren’t you having fun learning about football through my lessons? You clearly need help, and you even ask for it! Actually, you ask me more questions than make valid remarks! Case and point: “who are the canteranos on the first team?”. Any self reliant adult could easily have searched the answer to this online, but I appreciate you asking me for the answer, it shows you value my opinion and consider me an expert on football with question after question. So the answer you desperately crave: Raul, Casillas, Guti, Torres, Granero, Negredo Arbeloa, Adan, and De la Red (although Ruben needs medical clearance before playing this season due to a heart condition). I expect this answer is satisfactory… Well actually I expect your going to have something stupid to say as usual, despite having the clear honest answer in your face.

I would also really appreciate it if you stop lying and quit putting words in my mouth too (I know your desperate to win back some points, but at least be a man and stop polluting this thread with lies). I never argued Madrid would win La Liga this year, I left my personal beliefs to myself when speaking with you. YOU are the one that assumes I hate Barca, and say I’m envious. Find me one quote where I bash anything other than you. The fact is I think its great Barca is winning trophies! They are Madrids greatest rivals, and every great team needs a great antagonist. I know that no matter how many trophies Barca collects, they will never amount to Madrids greatness. Barcelona and their fans are doomed to eternally be second best behind Real Madrid! So stick to the topic and stop pulling shit out your ass, if you can’t keep up, at least be a man.

And I can’t help but laugh when you used “jerk-wad”, that’s all. I remember using that on friends when I was about 9 years old. I was hoping to draw out some more clever insults from you. I guess you’ll have to forgive me for expecting more originality from a muppet like you, originality denotes intelligence, something you lack.

Snob, you are absolutly right about everything you have stated. Not only do you give valid arguments, not just opinions, you have relevant facts to back everything up that you are saying. I couldn’t agree with you more on the Galacticos subject, but I think everything you are saying is definatly FACT! It is nice to see such a dedicated fan such as yourself defend our team so well.

As for you Herman, you are acting like an ignorrant little kid. I think that Soccer Snob summed it up by calling you a Clown shoe. Couldn’t have put it better myself. If you are such a dedicated fan, why don’t you do some research of your own instead of pulling absolute bullshit out of your ass.

Alrighty!!!! Someone is getting pretty defensive there nob!!! Once again you choose to put your asinine comments on this post for the world to see!! It stupefies to read your drivel and then try to give it any weight!! If this keeps up (which I hope does), the entire football will know that I have booted you like an Andrea Pirlo free kick. Where do I start with you nob? It seems you are the king of avoidance when it comes to this! Some of the topics we go back and forth on are just plain tired by this time, so I’ll just pummel you where you misstepped again.

Once and for all, admit that the galacticos was a failure!!! Like I said before, when the results do not match expectations, it is considered FAILURE!!!!! Real Madrid paid for all the trophies and did not get them!! That is FAILURE!!! In other words, MISSION NOT ACCOMPLISHED!!! Get that concept?? Some success does not mean that the galacticos gave the proper return on the investment. Bottom line nob. As for your opinion that galacticos represented a period and not the players? Well I poop on that because the period was not that illustrious!! Compare the accomplishments of Madrid during that time to say, AC Milan. Pretty comparable huh? Or ManU, or Juve. None of those teams had the so-called “galacticos”, aka, the best players in the world. So admit you are wrong and just say that the galacticos was a disappointment to the fans as well as the directors. If that was not the case, then the galacticos era would not have ended right? Florentino Perez’ presidency would have continued, right nob? Madrid would have continued paying top dollar for the best players in the world, right? You are a simpleton nob. One who can’t admit when they are wrong. Yes I can admit when I’m wrong. You got me on that whole richest club in the world thing. Yes I was wrong about ManU. I can admit it. Now you admit that you are wrong. Listen, I can surmise that you are an ardent Madrid fan and will defend your team to the end. But if I knew that Barca underachieved, I could admit it.

I cannot believe you had the nerve, the ego, to continue on with the whole Makelele argument after I destroyed you on that point. You had no answer to what I had to say About Makelele, other than to restate your inane opinion that he will go down as one of the greatest defensive midfielders ever. Lame. Oh and for the record, Me not knowing that Makelele was not with Chelsea anymore just goes to show you how insignificant he really is in the world of football at this moment. I’ll leave you with this: when Makelele retires, if Real Madrid throws him a “partido de despedida” like they did for Hierro or Hugo Sanchez, then, and only then will I see your point and admit it. But I’m certain they will not. That honor is only reserved for true legends.

Yes!!!!!!!! You are such a little ninny!!! Dismiss my point about Javier Aguirre as irrelevant!!! You know I’m right!! He saved Osasuna from relegation and turned them into a competitive team. He took Atletico back to the Champions League! He has done more in La Liga then Pellegrini has! So would he be good enough for Madrid? What I’m saying is that by Madrid standards, Pellegrini doesn’t have the pedigree to be the manager, and you know it. And don’t give me that nonsense about a team on a budget!!! Villareal has a very decent budget! Or else how could they afford Marcos Senna, Capdevila, Tomasson, Rossi, Nihat, Mati Fernandez, Javi Navarro, Pires, and the rest of the great players they had or still have?? They had a much bigger budget than Osasuna, thats for sure.

As for your question about Pep, Yeah I was skeptical when he came aboard! Who wasn’t?? But being the Barca legend that he is, I put my faith in him. He was well aware of the style of play required by Barca tradition. On the other hand, you are not skeptical, right? Pellegrini will win it all, right? You are so full of it!!!!!!

I noticed that you didn’t even comment on what I had to say about Madrid barely beating Sociedad! Could it be that already your asshole quivers at the fear of failing?? I bet it does!!!! One more thing, nob. Who are the canteranos on Madrid’s first team right now?? Answer that!

I am not even going to acknowledge the rest of your drivel. You have lost, jack-ass. This forum is all about opinions. And because I chose to say Arsenal would win the EPL this year, and say Bayern woul win the Bundesliga also, you thought you would “educate” me. Ha!! You are the pompous idiot who came on here to say that Madrid would win La Liga this year. Without even knowing how the players are going to jell. Knowing that Madrid tried this before and didn’t win it all.

And one more thing, you classless boob. Look back at our posts and see who was the first to start with the insults. So yeah I called you a “jerk-wad”. But you throw around insults too. That you can’t take them is not my fault. Clown shoe? You are a bigger idiot than I could ever fathom!!!

“Anything you can do I can do better, anything I do I do better than you”… it goes along those lines anyway….
I dont see what is wrong about playing the peacemaker, Snob- not nob, but snob… duh, herman—-
It is great to see you are purely devoted, and take attacks on our sport offensively and personally, but there aint nutin wrong with jus reasoned arguin, instead of this war of the words… if yall keep up we might have WW3 sometime soon… haha.
One last thing before I get to the topic…. the points stuff was aimed to what u said… I didnt elaborate… crud.
In my mind, La Liga will be an open contest this time round…. it will also be the thriller league, with the likes of Real Madrid’s experianced players combined with their new guns… Ronaldo, Kaka, and Benzema.. who else.. I ferget… versus Barcalona and their “total domination football”, plus Puyol, Henry, now Ibrahimovic, and of course the irreplaceable Messi. We might as well go and poll in the barca-madrid derbies coming up as games of the century in advance.
As I am a devoted MU fan, I look at the other leagues, even MLS, from a neutral’s perspective. I wouldnt be surprised to see Barca continue their run, though it will be a long and tiring road, specially with the challenge Real will soon make, but I wouldnt be surprised if Real managed to beat Barca to the top, either.
La Liga is THE Liga to watch this season…… absolutely, positively.

You are turning out to be a truly annoying little turd Herman. Your petty insults hurt about as much as ant bites.

I’m actually astonished you have the nerve to post again after getting it ALL wrong so far. How do you not realize that your own posts discredit you more than anything I write, but like they say where I come from “palos a gusto no duelen”.

But since you insist, let’s do this again. I’ll try to make this concise.

The Galacticos… It is widely accepted that Perez’s first presidency is considered the Galacticos era, because he brought to fruition the project of signing superstars. The Galacticos term is not reserved only for the individual players, its a period of time. Anyone that understands Madrid or world football knows this. Just because YOU have a skewed view of the term doesn’t authenticate your narrow minded opinion. Under Perez, Madrid DID achieve success for the first half of his reign, and he DID clear Madrids debt, and he DID make them the richest club, ahead of Man U. What is confusing you is that the Man U franchise is valued higher than Real Madrid. But Madrid earns the most revenue (ie by way of merchandise, tv deals, attendance, advertising…) of any team. They have topped Deloittes Money League for at least 5 years now, making them the richest club in the world. And you think Man U operates with zero debt?!? You just continue to show you know nothing. Man U (like most clubs, especially “big” clubs ) have mountains of debt. Man U is one of the worst! Man U has close €1 billion of debt!!! Madrid’s debt is estimated at €500 million (after their signings this summer)! I spell it out very easily for you, your undesputibly WRONG! My god, I mean, you don’t even know when Madrid won their titles and you criticize them? You don’t even know Man U is drowning in debt and you point your finger at Madrid which is a very well run and financially secure enterprise. And don’t worry about Madrid’s youth system, we always have canteranos on the team.

And as for Makelele, you incredulous moron, he most definatly will go down in history as one of the greatest defensive midfielders ever. He revolutionized that position, much like Carlos revolutionized the role of the wing back. Talk to a knowledgeable person, or listen to the pundits, they will all agree with me. Oh, and another thing, your so clueless that you don’t even know Makelele left Chelsea last season and has already played a full season at PSG, where at the age of 36 he will surely retire soon. You simply just know nothing, and once again are WRONG!

Do you even realize how foolish your sounding with your total lack of knowledge and incorrect facts? I should feel bad, its like I’m picking on a blindfolded retard in a wheelchair. But some people need to learn the hard way.

I find it interesting you attempt to avoid the Gago topic (remember, you attacked me by saying he’s not good enough to be on the Argentina squad, when he clearly has been a regular since 2007… WOW, what an amature mistake that was!), but you still couldn’t resist opening your mouth, proving once again your stupidity. Any pin head knows that great teams find strength in depth. This means that they have top drawer players to cover every position to be utilized in a rotational system, or in case of injury. So, once again I am absolutely correct in stating that Gago is a great option next to Alonso and Lass. Which means that you, again, are WRONG!

And as for your Aguirre remark, it’s irrelevant, so I’ll dismiss it.

The way you criticize Pellegrini without seeing his team play one competitive match, and how you disregard his achievements with a small town club on a budget that has played top tier football for less than a decade is extremely short sighted. I actually applaud Pep, its fantastic to see a young Spanish coach succeed with a Spanish team. But your attitude makes me wonder how you welcomed Pep to Barca a year ago. He himself was completely unproven, only taking charge of the Barca youth team, never even took charge of a team in segunda division. Are you a hypocrite as well as an idiot Herman? So when you demean Pellegrini, your arguments are, yup you guessed it, WRONG!

And your moronic Arsenal comment, well I thought I was quite clear, don’t count your chickens before they hatch. And what does the 1-1 draw between Bayern and Bremen prove other than that they both failed to pull through and achieve victory? It is the sign of a truly small intelligence to draw conclusions for the end of the season by looking at the FIRST result of the campaign! How does this sound: Wigans shock win against Aston Villa allows me to predict that Wigan will win the EPL this season! No! It doesn’t work that way genius! And once again, you make another distorted argument, this time concerning Klose, that just sounds like gibberish, so I’ll disregard that meaningless point of yours too. So, yeah, the way you predict who will be league champions by only analyzing the first game… Makes you WRONG!

Another thing I don’t understand is where you get off accusing me of hating/bashing Barca? I never once bad mouthed the Catalan giants, that was all you putting words in my mouth. I thouroghly enjoy watching their football. I have much love and respect for all their players. Xavi, Puyol, Messi, Iniesta, Alves, Henry, Ibra, etc…these are all world class players. But I never attacked FCB, that was all you and your feeble attempt to change the subject. I simply chose to harass you because you had your facts all WRONG, and I wanted to educate you. But now, the more you show up, the more disdain I have for you because you clearly, clearly, have an EXTREAMLY limited grasp on the beautiful game, yet you insist on rockin out with your cock out… But your two inches isn’t impressive little boy. Opinions should only be expressed if you have some sort of intelligence, but its always the dumb ones that feel compelled to scream the loudest.

One last thing, did you call me a “jerk-wad”? How do you think that makes you look you clown shoe!

Ps. YOUR WRONG!

Ha ha ha ha ha, hee hee hee hee hee! I love this!!! You are so funny, snob! Or more like, nob!!! I can see that this is going to be a beautiful back and forth, sort of like Barca’s play on the pitch. You are so full of yourself, but in reality you are just a jack-ass who comes on here trumpeting the virtues of a team who is going to all lengths (the wrong way) to measure up to the standard that Barca’s brand of football is setting. Its not going to happen!! I mean, look! Madrid squeaked by Sociedad, and I mean squeaked! They didn’t look that impressive, and you must admit that, nob. On the other hand Barca, with basically a ‘B’ team on the pitch, came back to handle a scrappy Bilbao squad and take a 2-1 lead back to Camp Nou, where we will appreciatingly add another trophy to the case. Oh nob, you are what we call in my neck of the woods, a “hater”. Bottom line. You come off like a little crybaby throwing a hissy fit because you can’t get what you want. And what you can’t get is a La liga title, A Copa del Rey, and a Champions league title. Not this year or anytime soon with that stale “galacticos” approach. And yes, I revel in Madrid’s misery!!!! Now to your remedial points.

First of all, to say that the term “galacticos” is synonymous with all of Florentino Perez’ reign is blatantly gross and unfounded! You failed to answer my question!! What did Zidane, Figo, Beckham, and Ronaldo win together?? What?? When you pay ungodly sums of money to the best players in the world and don’t win everything there is to win, that is considered failure, nob. I don’t care about what year this player or that player signed in!! Those above mentioned players were the original galacticos, considered the best players in that era! Don’t mention lesser players that came later and try to pass them off as galacticos!! Bringing in Owen and others was Perez’ way of conceding that this galacticos policy was not working. Realize that I am right and go shoot yourself!!!!
FURTHERMORE, nob, its a well known fact that ManU is and has been the richest team in football for quite some time now. They always operate in the black. How many loans and debts do you think your precious Madrid has? It is completey irresponsible to spend the amount of money they have this summer considering the financial troubles that are staring football in Europe straight in the eye. I want you to answer this question nob: How many of Madrid’s current first team roster players are from their schools and academies??? Watch what happens this year when the results don’t match the expectations!!! I’m going to love it!!!!!

Oh my god man!!! Get over your Claude Makelele obsession!! How can you say that he will go down as one of the greatest midfielders of all time?? What are you smoking, nob?? Jesus H. Christ! Makelele hardly played for France in the 2002 World Cup fiasco!!!! Isn’t that about the time he was in his prime?? He played in all of France’s World Cup games, Germany 2006. But what did contribute to that run? Let’s be honest, 2006 was all about Zidane, Ribery, And Malouda who had his coming out party. Its utterly preposterous to say he will go down as one of the best of all time!!! How incredibly asinine of you!! Let’s review what he did at Real Madrid, shall we? First off, 2000-2003 hardly constitutes a career in white, and although he might have been a stalwart in the midfield, and was part of some hardware winning teams, just because you have had no one else like him since doesn’t mean he will be one of the greatest of all time!! You fool, arrogant fool. What about the greats before him?? You do them a disservice. That Madrid has not been able to find another player to fill this so-called “Makelele role”, just goes to show you the ineptness of Madrid’s directors and managers. So stop swinging on Makelele’s nuts, nob. Benchmark!!!!!!! Ha! Stop making me laugh!! You are a right buffoon to compare him to Mascherano and Vieira!!! Mascherano is already the captain of Argentina!! Has Makelele ever worn the captain’s armband for France?? Vieira’s longevity speaks for itself, nob. Makelele sits on Chelsea’s bench, washed up.

I’m not even going to get into this whole Gago angle with you. Any righteous football fan knows that he is unfullfilled potential, thats all. What good is to say he is an amazing option off the bench?? He’s on the bench!! If he was so amazing he would be in the starting 11 and Madrid would not have brought in more midfielders!! Bottom line, nob, deal with it.

Oh this is rich!!!!!!!!! Pellegrini did some things with Villareal, huh? By your logic, Javier Aguirre would just as well be good with Madrid!!! There is a difference between good managers and great managers. That you envy Pep is obvious in your baseless defense of Pellegrini, don’t feel bad though, the world envies Pep.

I broke you down on the Arsenal point, now HEAR this loud and clear : Bayern 1- Bremen 1. So much for your whole argument about Bremen not replacing Diego properly, and all that mumbo-jumbo about Klose!! Yeah, Klose was a real factor there, and he’ll be even more of a factor when Toni comes back, right? You are a class A idiot, nob. I’m thoroughly enjoying breaking down the waste of space you take up in this section, and will continue to look forward to smashing you all football season-long!!!

One more thing, nob, Lionel Messi is the best player in the world, not Cristiano Ronaldo. Check Messi’s trophy case jerk-wad. There is a silver trophy in it affectionately referred to as “la orejona”. Won, in a head-to-head match-up. Or maybe you missed that too??

Brad, your funny, always playing the peace maker lol. But trust me, I’ve already won against these “incredulous” clowns. And don’t get the wrong impression, I’m not a bad guy. Your a Man U fan, and you back Barca over Madrid, but I’m not attacking you because I see you actually have a grasp on some football knowledge, I respect different opinions if they are intelligent. Sometimes I go overboard, but I truly have a passion for football and my teams. It really pisses me off when posers run their mouths and disrespect this great sport, so I hold everyone accountable for what they say, and sometimes they face my wrath.

Ps Herman had NO valid points.

DAMN, Soccer Snob. I wonder how u wrote that long post….
Both you and Herman Diaz have some fair points, and basically everything yall said is what I had in mind.
Also, I thought someone who has already gone into a war of the words with Jake wouldnt do it with someone else, even on another post. Trust me, Snob, I tell you from experiance, you wont be able to win both. and the one you lose will certainly be the one everyone knows about… just some advice.

Herman, Herman, Herman, I question why I even bother replying to dim whits like you. I guess its because I love encountering people like you that ramble and are so convinced that they are making relevant arguments, when in reality, with every key stroke you just show the world how little you know. Where to start with you… You have so many flaws and errors to correct.

First, the term “Galactico” is in reference to the “Superstar” players Perez signed during his initial tenure, which lasted from 2000-2006. So, since Figo was the first Galactico to sign in 2000 (the same year Perez won presidency) he marks the beginning of the first Galacticos era. This policy was intended to bring on a new Galactico every summer. Zidane joined in 2001, Ronaldo in 2002, Beckham in 2003, and Owen in 2004, to compliment Madrids established stars such as Raul, Casillas, and Carlos, to name a few. So, the term Galactico is synonymous with Perez’s entire reign as president. Some even argue that the Galactico era lasted even longer, to the departure of Beckham in 2007 (the last of Perez’s Galactico signings to leave). Sooo, I am absolutely correct in establishing that over those six years, in which Madrid DID win the aforementioned major trophies, I call them Galacticos. ALSO, Robinho DID sign during Perez’s first reign, but was not considered a Galactico, rather a diamond in the rough with potential for the future. FURTHERMORE, Canavarro and RVN signed during Calderons presidency, post Perez era. I did not include any of their efforts in my first list of trophies won during the initial Galacticos era. AND, you didn’t even mention the huge financial success Perez brought to the team, making them the richest team in the world! I reiterate, all this can hardly be considered a failure as you stated.

I hope you see your ignorance now Herman, but wait, there’s more!

You continue to show your lack of pedigree by disregarding Claude Makelele’s importance to Real Madrid. WOW! I’m amazed that someone that knows so little is writing on here with so much conviction… Anyone with half a clue about football knows that the loss of Makelele hurt more than any other. When he left, his position was (and still is) regarded as the “Makelele role”, a disruptive force in midfield that can hold and play the ball. He will go down in history as one of the greatest defensive midfielders in history. Players like Essien, Lass, Mascherano, and even Viera are compared to the benchmark that is Makelele. Without a key player like him, Madrids midfield lost its fluidity and its backfour had no cover up front. This was devastating considering Madrids attack minded philosophy. Other players tried to fill the void, but none could do the work of Makelele.

I hope you feel silly Herman.

And your attack on Gago, well, yes I would expect he would start on the bench when compared to Alonso and Lass. But even a dummy like you should see that as a sub, he’s an amazing option. And YOU compared him to Xavi, not me. They play completely different positions and perform totally different functions. I mearly stated that Madrid has more defensive answers in midfield than in the first Galacticos era, showing that Madrid has learned from the first experience. Oh yea, and just to fill you in, Gago has been a regular for Argentina since about 2007. He was even named in Maradonas squad for their friendly against Russia… I bet you feel dumb now huh?

And Pellegrini, well, he turned a small town club (Villarreal: pop about 50,000) on a budget, into champions league contenders (semi-finalists in 2006) and a real threat to La Liga rivals at the top of the table. Oh yeah, and they’ve only played top flight football since 1998.

Now for your Arsenal comment… Well what can I say, spoken like a true Arsenal fan. Your team wins one game and now they’re automatically the best in the world? We’ll talk in December, then we’ll see how powerful they truly are. But remember how well they were doing in December of 06/07, they really dropped the ball on that lead didn’t they. You should settle down, wait for Arsenal to win something, then start bragging to me, not the other way around. And those comments Cesc made are irrelevant. What was Kaka saying only weeks before he left Milan, even Ronaldo wasn’t totally clear on his position before leaving Man U. So once again, your argument is weak and amature.

And your Bayern rant is complete nonsense, but I’ll oblige you anyways, I’m having fun tearing you apart! In the last ten years, Bayern has won the Bundesliga 6 times! in my previous post I stated that Bayern win it ALMOST every year. I’m sure if your familiar with fractions, that you’ll see I’m mathematically correct. But if that’s not proof enough, look at the Bundesligas history, and I’m willing to bet that Bayern hold the majority of the titles compared to the other teams combined! Just because the fans want a title, doesn’t mean they desperately deserve one. I think every fan of every teams feels that way. But your post on Bayern is just moronic. I don’t even believe you follow German football. What you say about Bremen is equally moronic. “Why mention Klose”!?! Because he was their most dangerous goal getter! And as I clearly said, when they sold him to Bayern (direct rivals at the time, which makes no sense to me), Bremen failed to properly replace him! “They didn’t miss him that much” are you fucking serious!?! They went from CL hopefuls to 10th place on the table! Do you even watch football, or are you just here to piss me off with your ignorance!?! And now, Bremen sell their next best player, Diego, and as far as I’ve seen, have failed to properly replace him (I don’t follow the Bundesliga as closely as La Liga or the Prem, so please enlighten me if they have a new midfield maestro, because you obviously have the answer to everything) and you expect them to threaten this year? Why not Wolfsburg (defending champions), or Koln (great signings), or Hamburg (consistent) or even Hoffenheim (shock team of last season)! Try backing up your arguments with logic (I mean real logic, not made up stuff you think is true)! One more thing, you wanna talk about washed up midfielders not making their national teams, let’s talk about Frings, playing for your mighty Bremen. See, when I mention someone being dropped from the national team its true.

And as for CR9, I’ll let his trophy cabinet speak for itself. You may not like him because he’s a SNOB, but he does it better than anyone on a football pitch, a FACT you must live with.

I truly hope not to hear from you again Herman.

Oh Soccer snob! So high and mighty!!!! Listen, get your statistics right!!! There was only one “galacticos” period before this one, and that was when Madrid had Figo, Beckham, Zidane, and Ronaldo. How many of these players were at Madrid for 6 years??? Ahem? What was that? I thought so. Most of that success you mention came with different players like Cannavaro and Robinho, and also van Niistelroy. Give me the numbers corresponding to when those players I mentioned were actually on the team together. So who knows what about football? First of all, Makelele will not be remembered in the annals of Madrid football!! Come on snob, let’s be serious!! Now I admit that you do finally have some players with that “grit”, those intangibles we know that every team needs. Xabi Alonso is one of those. But you mention Gago, like he is even in the same league with Xavi and Toure Yaya!!! Won’t he be back on the bench now?? Albiol and Arbeloa are solid pick-ups. But still the question remains if they can blend all that talent into a winning formula!! Ahh, there is just that little problem, isn’t there?? One more note on Gago that should quiet you, Maradona doesn’t even consider him for the national team! Who is actually going to play?? What about all the Dutchmen?? Answer those questions, snob. Let’s see how profound you can get then. You make me laugh with the little insults!! Shows that my comments hit the mark!!! One more comment about Madr5id before I change the subject, Pellegrini?? What has he won??

Now on to Arsenal. Today’s 6-1 drubbing of Everton is just a sign of things to come, snob. The players they get rid of are shuttled because they don’t figure in the team’s plans or they are disruptive to what Wenger is trying to accomplish. Man City overpaid for Adebayor and you know it!!! And before you say that Cesc’s days are numbered at Emirates, check out his own personal comments on just that topic at Arsenal.com. You see snob, I do my homework before I spew falsities. It seems that you hate Arsenal because they are going with a youth movement and actualyy showing patience (unlike most teams) with the results. Not every team trys to buy championships. Arsenal’s young talent is unmatched in quality and quantity. Cesc, Nasri, Vela, Denilson, Arshavin, Wilshere, Walcott, Bendtner, the list goes on and on. Only a shortsighted fool cannot see that the Gunners are on the upswing and good things are coming.

As for Bayern, who are the reigning champions of Germany?? Wolfsburg that’s who. One season without a championship is too long for Bayern fans. They won in 2008, but 2007 belonged to Stuttgart. So you see snob, they don’t win every year. Bayern fans want it every year, as do their directors. And Werder Bremen is not all Almeida. Mertesacker, Frings, Marcelo Moreno. This is a solid team that will challenge for the title this year, mark my words, snob. The level of talent in the Bundesliga is not that high to begin with, so teams with a decent roster always will challenge. And why even mention Klose leaving Bremen?? How long ago was that?? They didn’t miss him that much.

Before I go, let me just say that your little rant was obviously heartfelt, since you think I blasted your team. But no, I merely stated fact. Which is, money cannot win championships and most importantly, chemistry. Let the season unfold and the talk the talk, snob. We know what Barca can do. The world knows it. Real Madrid? The great unknown!!!!!!!!!!! I have to ask you this. Would’nt you rather have a humble Messi, than a strutting peacock Ronaldo?? Hopefully Kaka rubs off on that flamboyant clown. Wish he would just play football, and let his talent do the talking. And if you can defend his antics then you are more misguided than I thought!!!

Herman, your little infantile comments show how little you know about football. You say the previous “Galacticos” were total failures? I will agree that this cycle could have been more successful considering their financial outlay, but I hardly consider 3 Liga titles, 2 Supercopas, 1 Champions League, 1 intercontinental cup, and 1 UEFA supercup in 6 years a total failure. Not to mention, Perez managed to clear Madrids debts and make them the richest team in the world!!!! If you had a clue, you would see Madrid did learn from the previous Galacticos era. You say Madrid don’t have players that “do the dirty work” and “small things”… Well when you make this argument you name some of Barca’s defenders, clearly they do the dirty work, so are you insinuating Madrid doesn’t have good defenders? They have great defenders, they just need a more defense minded system. And they have signed new defenders to strengthen the backline (Albiol, Arbeloa) to go along with the many top class defenders they already have. And in the midfield, Madrid has Alonso, Lass, M. Diarra, and Gago to do “the dirty work”. Its common knowledge that the previous Galacticos suffered most when they lost Makelele, now they have Lass who is a pitbull in front of the back four. I believe the powers that be have learned from history and we’ll see a system that better compliments all the firepower Madrid has at its disposal.

And as for your other genius insights, can you justify why Arsenal will surprise? Is it because they continue to lose their top players because Arsenal refuse to pay these players, then sub them with unknowns that will inevitably leave once they become regulars (Cesc’s days are numbered at the Emerates!).

And how about your profound prediction that Bayern will achieve a long awaited league title… Oh wait, they just won it a year ago! They win the Bundesliga almost every year you dolt! And how do you see Bremen (a team that finished 10th last season, failed to properly replace Klose and recently lost their best player in Diego) be such a threat this year?
If Diego adds so much to Juve, then Bremen is really losing out, unless you see Almeida topping the scoring charts this year… LOL!

The only point I agree with you on is that Juve will contend for the Scudetto thanks to some good signings and player development. But I still believe Inter are favorites.

So next time you want to blast my team Real Madrid, educate yourself and don’t talk like an ignorant child. Actually, next time you speak period, make sure you make any sense at all so you dont embarrass yourself.

Listen, this “galacticos” approach was tried once before by Florentino Perez, and let’s be honest, it FAILED!!!!! Big time!!! It will fail again because you cannot buy chemistry through individualities. Barca has the chemistry, although it will be interesting to see how well Ibra can adapt and contribute. Real doesn’t have enough players who do the “dirty work”, the “small things” on the pitch. Barca does. Xavi, Yaya Toure, Keita, Puyol, Pique who is so versatile as a defender, and let’s not even mention the deep talent in Barca’s youth academies. They are already rife with youngsters who are ready to make the jump to the first team. Did you watch Barca’s U.S. tour?? Enough said. Around the world, Arsenal will surprise. Juventus will wrest the scudetto away from Inter, and Bayern Munich will barely get by Werder Bremen for another Bundesliga title, that is long overdue!!!!! One more thing about Juve. They will not only win the scudetto this year, but are serious contenders for the Champions League. Diego will bring alot to that team, and Giovinco is ready to become a superstar. Juventus is a deep and talented squad.

I would not be surprised if Barca wins again. Real’s new players will have to adapt to the smaller, more crowded pitches in la liga, so we can expect that they wont do too much until after mid-season.
But dont get me wrong, with those new guns, Real will give Barca HELL this season. Absolute HELL.

Hi,it will be a keenly contested one between Barca and R-madrid.Barca being a compact team and Real having a large sqaud with both young and experienced talented players and an experienced laliga coach, will make the league very though. Real will record more goals scored probably winning the league.HALA MADRID

finally, barca will have competition. if real madrid do not go all out for la liga , barca will definitely win again. the only way real will win is if they fight for it. barca will not give it up easily even with injured players. there is yet to be another 11 to play with the same spirit and unity and understanding as a team as barca. it’s not just in their skills which is massive by the way, but in their character. still yet football is never predictable. let’s just watch and see. AND DON’T WRITE OFF ALL THE OTHERS, THINGS HAPPEN ALL THE TIME.

this is how titles would be won around europe as far as leaques are concerned come the end of this season.real madrid would win the la liga,Ac milan would win the escudetto.Arsenal would lift the english premier leaque.Bayern would once again enjoy the bundisliga.Ajax 2 be the dutch champions.panathiakos,galatasary and would also be champions.the rest of the european clubs would be hard 2 predict.who gonna stop the new and agressive onslaught of the hungry gunners.i guess no one.next week the onslaught wou

I do partly agree with the writer’s perspective on Barca’s current squad, but on the other hand, I think Barca has a lot to do this season than last season in all compititions. Theiry Henry is still nursing injury, and we don’t know for how long it will take Ibra. to adjust to spanish football. For La Liga, I’m partially optimistic that Barca can win championship because madrid has bunch of fowards than defenders. When it comes to CL, I’m sceptical about Barca’s chance of winning it because Barca is very slow in getting goal against a strond defensive team such as cheasea. Barca’s opportunity of winning CL last season was just about a dead piece of luck they had against chelsea, and also the refree’s dullness. Also I’m not sure how long it will take maxwell to adjust and how good of a defender he is. Actually, the championship this year in spain is not too predictable because the 2 top teams (FCB and R. Madrid) have some big “ifs” and “buts”. All we can do is to sit and see the first few games of both teams before making hypotheses and other stuffs.

i think barca is going to win for there second time.

Barcelona

Real Madrid!

I think madrid wil win,lukin at d caliber of players dey hv dey can beat any team.liverpool 4 life

I think madrid wil win,lukin at d caliber of players dey hv dey can beat any team.liverpool 4 life

Real Madrid!

Barcelona

i think barca is going to win for there second time.

I do partly agree with the writer’s perspective on Barca’s current squad, but on the other hand, I think Barca has a lot to do this season than last season in all compititions. Theiry Henry is still nursing injury, and we don’t know for how long it will take Ibra. to adjust to spanish football. For La Liga, I’m partially optimistic that Barca can win championship because madrid has bunch of fowards than defenders. When it comes to CL, I’m sceptical about Barca’s chance of winning it because Barca is very slow in getting goal against a strond defensive team such as cheasea. Barca’s opportunity of winning CL last season was just about a dead piece of luck they had against chelsea, and also the refree’s dullness. Also I’m not sure how long it will take maxwell to adjust and how good of a defender he is. Actually, the championship this year in spain is not too predictable because the 2 top teams (FCB and R. Madrid) have some big “ifs” and “buts”. All we can do is to sit and see the first few games of both teams before making hypotheses and other stuffs.

this is how titles would be won around europe as far as leaques are concerned come the end of this season.real madrid would win the la liga,Ac milan would win the escudetto.Arsenal would lift the english premier leaque.Bayern would once again enjoy the bundisliga.Ajax 2 be the dutch champions.panathiakos,galatasary and would also be champions.the rest of the european clubs would be hard 2 predict.who gonna stop the new and agressive onslaught of the hungry gunners.i guess no one.next week the onslaught wou

finally, barca will have competition. if real madrid do not go all out for la liga , barca will definitely win again. the only way real will win is if they fight for it. barca will not give it up easily even with injured players. there is yet to be another 11 to play with the same spirit and unity and understanding as a team as barca. it’s not just in their skills which is massive by the way, but in their character. still yet football is never predictable. let’s just watch and see. AND DON’T WRITE OFF ALL THE OTHERS, THINGS HAPPEN ALL THE TIME.

Hi,it will be a keenly contested one between Barca and R-madrid.Barca being a compact team and Real having a large sqaud with both young and experienced talented players and an experienced laliga coach, will make the league very though. Real will record more goals scored probably winning the league.HALA MADRID

I would not be surprised if Barca wins again. Real’s new players will have to adapt to the smaller, more crowded pitches in la liga, so we can expect that they wont do too much until after mid-season.
But dont get me wrong, with those new guns, Real will give Barca HELL this season. Absolute HELL.

Listen, this “galacticos” approach was tried once before by Florentino Perez, and let’s be honest, it FAILED!!!!! Big time!!! It will fail again because you cannot buy chemistry through individualities. Barca has the chemistry, although it will be interesting to see how well Ibra can adapt and contribute. Real doesn’t have enough players who do the “dirty work”, the “small things” on the pitch. Barca does. Xavi, Yaya Toure, Keita, Puyol, Pique who is so versatile as a defender, and let’s not even mention the deep talent in Barca’s youth academies. They are already rife with youngsters who are ready to make the jump to the first team. Did you watch Barca’s U.S. tour?? Enough said. Around the world, Arsenal will surprise. Juventus will wrest the scudetto away from Inter, and Bayern Munich will barely get by Werder Bremen for another Bundesliga title, that is long overdue!!!!! One more thing about Juve. They will not only win the scudetto this year, but are serious contenders for the Champions League. Diego will bring alot to that team, and Giovinco is ready to become a superstar. Juventus is a deep and talented squad.

Herman, your little infantile comments show how little you know about football. You say the previous “Galacticos” were total failures? I will agree that this cycle could have been more successful considering their financial outlay, but I hardly consider 3 Liga titles, 2 Supercopas, 1 Champions League, 1 intercontinental cup, and 1 UEFA supercup in 6 years a total failure. Not to mention, Perez managed to clear Madrids debts and make them the richest team in the world!!!! If you had a clue, you would see Madrid did learn from the previous Galacticos era. You say Madrid don’t have players that “do the dirty work” and “small things”… Well when you make this argument you name some of Barca’s defenders, clearly they do the dirty work, so are you insinuating Madrid doesn’t have good defenders? They have great defenders, they just need a more defense minded system. And they have signed new defenders to strengthen the backline (Albiol, Arbeloa) to go along with the many top class defenders they already have. And in the midfield, Madrid has Alonso, Lass, M. Diarra, and Gago to do “the dirty work”. Its common knowledge that the previous Galacticos suffered most when they lost Makelele, now they have Lass who is a pitbull in front of the back four. I believe the powers that be have learned from history and we’ll see a system that better compliments all the firepower Madrid has at its disposal.

And as for your other genius insights, can you justify why Arsenal will surprise? Is it because they continue to lose their top players because Arsenal refuse to pay these players, then sub them with unknowns that will inevitably leave once they become regulars (Cesc’s days are numbered at the Emerates!).

And how about your profound prediction that Bayern will achieve a long awaited league title… Oh wait, they just won it a year ago! They win the Bundesliga almost every year you dolt! And how do you see Bremen (a team that finished 10th last season, failed to properly replace Klose and recently lost their best player in Diego) be such a threat this year?
If Diego adds so much to Juve, then Bremen is really losing out, unless you see Almeida topping the scoring charts this year… LOL!

The only point I agree with you on is that Juve will contend for the Scudetto thanks to some good signings and player development. But I still believe Inter are favorites.

So next time you want to blast my team Real Madrid, educate yourself and don’t talk like an ignorant child. Actually, next time you speak period, make sure you make any sense at all so you dont embarrass yourself.

Oh Soccer snob! So high and mighty!!!! Listen, get your statistics right!!! There was only one “galacticos” period before this one, and that was when Madrid had Figo, Beckham, Zidane, and Ronaldo. How many of these players were at Madrid for 6 years??? Ahem? What was that? I thought so. Most of that success you mention came with different players like Cannavaro and Robinho, and also van Niistelroy. Give me the numbers corresponding to when those players I mentioned were actually on the team together. So who knows what about football? First of all, Makelele will not be remembered in the annals of Madrid football!! Come on snob, let’s be serious!! Now I admit that you do finally have some players with that “grit”, those intangibles we know that every team needs. Xabi Alonso is one of those. But you mention Gago, like he is even in the same league with Xavi and Toure Yaya!!! Won’t he be back on the bench now?? Albiol and Arbeloa are solid pick-ups. But still the question remains if they can blend all that talent into a winning formula!! Ahh, there is just that little problem, isn’t there?? One more note on Gago that should quiet you, Maradona doesn’t even consider him for the national team! Who is actually going to play?? What about all the Dutchmen?? Answer those questions, snob. Let’s see how profound you can get then. You make me laugh with the little insults!! Shows that my comments hit the mark!!! One more comment about Madr5id before I change the subject, Pellegrini?? What has he won??

Now on to Arsenal. Today’s 6-1 drubbing of Everton is just a sign of things to come, snob. The players they get rid of are shuttled because they don’t figure in the team’s plans or they are disruptive to what Wenger is trying to accomplish. Man City overpaid for Adebayor and you know it!!! And before you say that Cesc’s days are numbered at Emirates, check out his own personal comments on just that topic at Arsenal.com. You see snob, I do my homework before I spew falsities. It seems that you hate Arsenal because they are going with a youth movement and actualyy showing patience (unlike most teams) with the results. Not every team trys to buy championships. Arsenal’s young talent is unmatched in quality and quantity. Cesc, Nasri, Vela, Denilson, Arshavin, Wilshere, Walcott, Bendtner, the list goes on and on. Only a shortsighted fool cannot see that the Gunners are on the upswing and good things are coming.

As for Bayern, who are the reigning champions of Germany?? Wolfsburg that’s who. One season without a championship is too long for Bayern fans. They won in 2008, but 2007 belonged to Stuttgart. So you see snob, they don’t win every year. Bayern fans want it every year, as do their directors. And Werder Bremen is not all Almeida. Mertesacker, Frings, Marcelo Moreno. This is a solid team that will challenge for the title this year, mark my words, snob. The level of talent in the Bundesliga is not that high to begin with, so teams with a decent roster always will challenge. And why even mention Klose leaving Bremen?? How long ago was that?? They didn’t miss him that much.

Before I go, let me just say that your little rant was obviously heartfelt, since you think I blasted your team. But no, I merely stated fact. Which is, money cannot win championships and most importantly, chemistry. Let the season unfold and the talk the talk, snob. We know what Barca can do. The world knows it. Real Madrid? The great unknown!!!!!!!!!!! I have to ask you this. Would’nt you rather have a humble Messi, than a strutting peacock Ronaldo?? Hopefully Kaka rubs off on that flamboyant clown. Wish he would just play football, and let his talent do the talking. And if you can defend his antics then you are more misguided than I thought!!!

Herman, Herman, Herman, I question why I even bother replying to dim whits like you. I guess its because I love encountering people like you that ramble and are so convinced that they are making relevant arguments, when in reality, with every key stroke you just show the world how little you know. Where to start with you… You have so many flaws and errors to correct.

First, the term “Galactico” is in reference to the “Superstar” players Perez signed during his initial tenure, which lasted from 2000-2006. So, since Figo was the first Galactico to sign in 2000 (the same year Perez won presidency) he marks the beginning of the first Galacticos era. This policy was intended to bring on a new Galactico every summer. Zidane joined in 2001, Ronaldo in 2002, Beckham in 2003, and Owen in 2004, to compliment Madrids established stars such as Raul, Casillas, and Carlos, to name a few. So, the term Galactico is synonymous with Perez’s entire reign as president. Some even argue that the Galactico era lasted even longer, to the departure of Beckham in 2007 (the last of Perez’s Galactico signings to leave). Sooo, I am absolutely correct in establishing that over those six years, in which Madrid DID win the aforementioned major trophies, I call them Galacticos. ALSO, Robinho DID sign during Perez’s first reign, but was not considered a Galactico, rather a diamond in the rough with potential for the future. FURTHERMORE, Canavarro and RVN signed during Calderons presidency, post Perez era. I did not include any of their efforts in my first list of trophies won during the initial Galacticos era. AND, you didn’t even mention the huge financial success Perez brought to the team, making them the richest team in the world! I reiterate, all this can hardly be considered a failure as you stated.

I hope you see your ignorance now Herman, but wait, there’s more!

You continue to show your lack of pedigree by disregarding Claude Makelele’s importance to Real Madrid. WOW! I’m amazed that someone that knows so little is writing on here with so much conviction… Anyone with half a clue about football knows that the loss of Makelele hurt more than any other. When he left, his position was (and still is) regarded as the “Makelele role”, a disruptive force in midfield that can hold and play the ball. He will go down in history as one of the greatest defensive midfielders in history. Players like Essien, Lass, Mascherano, and even Viera are compared to the benchmark that is Makelele. Without a key player like him, Madrids midfield lost its fluidity and its backfour had no cover up front. This was devastating considering Madrids attack minded philosophy. Other players tried to fill the void, but none could do the work of Makelele.

I hope you feel silly Herman.

And your attack on Gago, well, yes I would expect he would start on the bench when compared to Alonso and Lass. But even a dummy like you should see that as a sub, he’s an amazing option. And YOU compared him to Xavi, not me. They play completely different positions and perform totally different functions. I mearly stated that Madrid has more defensive answers in midfield than in the first Galacticos era, showing that Madrid has learned from the first experience. Oh yea, and just to fill you in, Gago has been a regular for Argentina since about 2007. He was even named in Maradonas squad for their friendly against Russia… I bet you feel dumb now huh?

And Pellegrini, well, he turned a small town club (Villarreal: pop about 50,000) on a budget, into champions league contenders (semi-finalists in 2006) and a real threat to La Liga rivals at the top of the table. Oh yeah, and they’ve only played top flight football since 1998.

Now for your Arsenal comment… Well what can I say, spoken like a true Arsenal fan. Your team wins one game and now they’re automatically the best in the world? We’ll talk in December, then we’ll see how powerful they truly are. But remember how well they were doing in December of 06/07, they really dropped the ball on that lead didn’t they. You should settle down, wait for Arsenal to win something, then start bragging to me, not the other way around. And those comments Cesc made are irrelevant. What was Kaka saying only weeks before he left Milan, even Ronaldo wasn’t totally clear on his position before leaving Man U. So once again, your argument is weak and amature.

And your Bayern rant is complete nonsense, but I’ll oblige you anyways, I’m having fun tearing you apart! In the last ten years, Bayern has won the Bundesliga 6 times! in my previous post I stated that Bayern win it ALMOST every year. I’m sure if your familiar with fractions, that you’ll see I’m mathematically correct. But if that’s not proof enough, look at the Bundesligas history, and I’m willing to bet that Bayern hold the majority of the titles compared to the other teams combined! Just because the fans want a title, doesn’t mean they desperately deserve one. I think every fan of every teams feels that way. But your post on Bayern is just moronic. I don’t even believe you follow German football. What you say about Bremen is equally moronic. “Why mention Klose”!?! Because he was their most dangerous goal getter! And as I clearly said, when they sold him to Bayern (direct rivals at the time, which makes no sense to me), Bremen failed to properly replace him! “They didn’t miss him that much” are you fucking serious!?! They went from CL hopefuls to 10th place on the table! Do you even watch football, or are you just here to piss me off with your ignorance!?! And now, Bremen sell their next best player, Diego, and as far as I’ve seen, have failed to properly replace him (I don’t follow the Bundesliga as closely as La Liga or the Prem, so please enlighten me if they have a new midfield maestro, because you obviously have the answer to everything) and you expect them to threaten this year? Why not Wolfsburg (defending champions), or Koln (great signings), or Hamburg (consistent) or even Hoffenheim (shock team of last season)! Try backing up your arguments with logic (I mean real logic, not made up stuff you think is true)! One more thing, you wanna talk about washed up midfielders not making their national teams, let’s talk about Frings, playing for your mighty Bremen. See, when I mention someone being dropped from the national team its true.

And as for CR9, I’ll let his trophy cabinet speak for itself. You may not like him because he’s a SNOB, but he does it better than anyone on a football pitch, a FACT you must live with.

I truly hope not to hear from you again Herman.

DAMN, Soccer Snob. I wonder how u wrote that long post….
Both you and Herman Diaz have some fair points, and basically everything yall said is what I had in mind.
Also, I thought someone who has already gone into a war of the words with Jake wouldnt do it with someone else, even on another post. Trust me, Snob, I tell you from experiance, you wont be able to win both. and the one you lose will certainly be the one everyone knows about… just some advice.

Brad, your funny, always playing the peace maker lol. But trust me, I’ve already won against these “incredulous” clowns. And don’t get the wrong impression, I’m not a bad guy. Your a Man U fan, and you back Barca over Madrid, but I’m not attacking you because I see you actually have a grasp on some football knowledge, I respect different opinions if they are intelligent. Sometimes I go overboard, but I truly have a passion for football and my teams. It really pisses me off when posers run their mouths and disrespect this great sport, so I hold everyone accountable for what they say, and sometimes they face my wrath.

Ps Herman had NO valid points.

Ha ha ha ha ha, hee hee hee hee hee! I love this!!! You are so funny, snob! Or more like, nob!!! I can see that this is going to be a beautiful back and forth, sort of like Barca’s play on the pitch. You are so full of yourself, but in reality you are just a jack-ass who comes on here trumpeting the virtues of a team who is going to all lengths (the wrong way) to measure up to the standard that Barca’s brand of football is setting. Its not going to happen!! I mean, look! Madrid squeaked by Sociedad, and I mean squeaked! They didn’t look that impressive, and you must admit that, nob. On the other hand Barca, with basically a ‘B’ team on the pitch, came back to handle a scrappy Bilbao squad and take a 2-1 lead back to Camp Nou, where we will appreciatingly add another trophy to the case. Oh nob, you are what we call in my neck of the woods, a “hater”. Bottom line. You come off like a little crybaby throwing a hissy fit because you can’t get what you want. And what you can’t get is a La liga title, A Copa del Rey, and a Champions league title. Not this year or anytime soon with that stale “galacticos” approach. And yes, I revel in Madrid’s misery!!!! Now to your remedial points.

First of all, to say that the term “galacticos” is synonymous with all of Florentino Perez’ reign is blatantly gross and unfounded! You failed to answer my question!! What did Zidane, Figo, Beckham, and Ronaldo win together?? What?? When you pay ungodly sums of money to the best players in the world and don’t win everything there is to win, that is considered failure, nob. I don’t care about what year this player or that player signed in!! Those above mentioned players were the original galacticos, considered the best players in that era! Don’t mention lesser players that came later and try to pass them off as galacticos!! Bringing in Owen and others was Perez’ way of conceding that this galacticos policy was not working. Realize that I am right and go shoot yourself!!!!
FURTHERMORE, nob, its a well known fact that ManU is and has been the richest team in football for quite some time now. They always operate in the black. How many loans and debts do you think your precious Madrid has? It is completey irresponsible to spend the amount of money they have this summer considering the financial troubles that are staring football in Europe straight in the eye. I want you to answer this question nob: How many of Madrid’s current first team roster players are from their schools and academies??? Watch what happens this year when the results don’t match the expectations!!! I’m going to love it!!!!!

Oh my god man!!! Get over your Claude Makelele obsession!! How can you say that he will go down as one of the greatest midfielders of all time?? What are you smoking, nob?? Jesus H. Christ! Makelele hardly played for France in the 2002 World Cup fiasco!!!! Isn’t that about the time he was in his prime?? He played in all of France’s World Cup games, Germany 2006. But what did contribute to that run? Let’s be honest, 2006 was all about Zidane, Ribery, And Malouda who had his coming out party. Its utterly preposterous to say he will go down as one of the best of all time!!! How incredibly asinine of you!! Let’s review what he did at Real Madrid, shall we? First off, 2000-2003 hardly constitutes a career in white, and although he might have been a stalwart in the midfield, and was part of some hardware winning teams, just because you have had no one else like him since doesn’t mean he will be one of the greatest of all time!! You fool, arrogant fool. What about the greats before him?? You do them a disservice. That Madrid has not been able to find another player to fill this so-called “Makelele role”, just goes to show you the ineptness of Madrid’s directors and managers. So stop swinging on Makelele’s nuts, nob. Benchmark!!!!!!! Ha! Stop making me laugh!! You are a right buffoon to compare him to Mascherano and Vieira!!! Mascherano is already the captain of Argentina!! Has Makelele ever worn the captain’s armband for France?? Vieira’s longevity speaks for itself, nob. Makelele sits on Chelsea’s bench, washed up.

I’m not even going to get into this whole Gago angle with you. Any righteous football fan knows that he is unfullfilled potential, thats all. What good is to say he is an amazing option off the bench?? He’s on the bench!! If he was so amazing he would be in the starting 11 and Madrid would not have brought in more midfielders!! Bottom line, nob, deal with it.

Oh this is rich!!!!!!!!! Pellegrini did some things with Villareal, huh? By your logic, Javier Aguirre would just as well be good with Madrid!!! There is a difference between good managers and great managers. That you envy Pep is obvious in your baseless defense of Pellegrini, don’t feel bad though, the world envies Pep.

I broke you down on the Arsenal point, now HEAR this loud and clear : Bayern 1- Bremen 1. So much for your whole argument about Bremen not replacing Diego properly, and all that mumbo-jumbo about Klose!! Yeah, Klose was a real factor there, and he’ll be even more of a factor when Toni comes back, right? You are a class A idiot, nob. I’m thoroughly enjoying breaking down the waste of space you take up in this section, and will continue to look forward to smashing you all football season-long!!!

One more thing, nob, Lionel Messi is the best player in the world, not Cristiano Ronaldo. Check Messi’s trophy case jerk-wad. There is a silver trophy in it affectionately referred to as “la orejona”. Won, in a head-to-head match-up. Or maybe you missed that too??

You are turning out to be a truly annoying little turd Herman. Your petty insults hurt about as much as ant bites.

I’m actually astonished you have the nerve to post again after getting it ALL wrong so far. How do you not realize that your own posts discredit you more than anything I write, but like they say where I come from “palos a gusto no duelen”.

But since you insist, let’s do this again. I’ll try to make this concise.

The Galacticos… It is widely accepted that Perez’s first presidency is considered the Galacticos era, because he brought to fruition the project of signing superstars. The Galacticos term is not reserved only for the individual players, its a period of time. Anyone that understands Madrid or world football knows this. Just because YOU have a skewed view of the term doesn’t authenticate your narrow minded opinion. Under Perez, Madrid DID achieve success for the first half of his reign, and he DID clear Madrids debt, and he DID make them the richest club, ahead of Man U. What is confusing you is that the Man U franchise is valued higher than Real Madrid. But Madrid earns the most revenue (ie by way of merchandise, tv deals, attendance, advertising…) of any team. They have topped Deloittes Money League for at least 5 years now, making them the richest club in the world. And you think Man U operates with zero debt?!? You just continue to show you know nothing. Man U (like most clubs, especially “big” clubs ) have mountains of debt. Man U is one of the worst! Man U has close €1 billion of debt!!! Madrid’s debt is estimated at €500 million (after their signings this summer)! I spell it out very easily for you, your undesputibly WRONG! My god, I mean, you don’t even know when Madrid won their titles and you criticize them? You don’t even know Man U is drowning in debt and you point your finger at Madrid which is a very well run and financially secure enterprise. And don’t worry about Madrid’s youth system, we always have canteranos on the team.

And as for Makelele, you incredulous moron, he most definatly will go down in history as one of the greatest defensive midfielders ever. He revolutionized that position, much like Carlos revolutionized the role of the wing back. Talk to a knowledgeable person, or listen to the pundits, they will all agree with me. Oh, and another thing, your so clueless that you don’t even know Makelele left Chelsea last season and has already played a full season at PSG, where at the age of 36 he will surely retire soon. You simply just know nothing, and once again are WRONG!

Do you even realize how foolish your sounding with your total lack of knowledge and incorrect facts? I should feel bad, its like I’m picking on a blindfolded retard in a wheelchair. But some people need to learn the hard way.

I find it interesting you attempt to avoid the Gago topic (remember, you attacked me by saying he’s not good enough to be on the Argentina squad, when he clearly has been a regular since 2007… WOW, what an amature mistake that was!), but you still couldn’t resist opening your mouth, proving once again your stupidity. Any pin head knows that great teams find strength in depth. This means that they have top drawer players to cover every position to be utilized in a rotational system, or in case of injury. So, once again I am absolutely correct in stating that Gago is a great option next to Alonso and Lass. Which means that you, again, are WRONG!

And as for your Aguirre remark, it’s irrelevant, so I’ll dismiss it.

The way you criticize Pellegrini without seeing his team play one competitive match, and how you disregard his achievements with a small town club on a budget that has played top tier football for less than a decade is extremely short sighted. I actually applaud Pep, its fantastic to see a young Spanish coach succeed with a Spanish team. But your attitude makes me wonder how you welcomed Pep to Barca a year ago. He himself was completely unproven, only taking charge of the Barca youth team, never even took charge of a team in segunda division. Are you a hypocrite as well as an idiot Herman? So when you demean Pellegrini, your arguments are, yup you guessed it, WRONG!

And your moronic Arsenal comment, well I thought I was quite clear, don’t count your chickens before they hatch. And what does the 1-1 draw between Bayern and Bremen prove other than that they both failed to pull through and achieve victory? It is the sign of a truly small intelligence to draw conclusions for the end of the season by looking at the FIRST result of the campaign! How does this sound: Wigans shock win against Aston Villa allows me to predict that Wigan will win the EPL this season! No! It doesn’t work that way genius! And once again, you make another distorted argument, this time concerning Klose, that just sounds like gibberish, so I’ll disregard that meaningless point of yours too. So, yeah, the way you predict who will be league champions by only analyzing the first game… Makes you WRONG!

Another thing I don’t understand is where you get off accusing me of hating/bashing Barca? I never once bad mouthed the Catalan giants, that was all you putting words in my mouth. I thouroghly enjoy watching their football. I have much love and respect for all their players. Xavi, Puyol, Messi, Iniesta, Alves, Henry, Ibra, etc…these are all world class players. But I never attacked FCB, that was all you and your feeble attempt to change the subject. I simply chose to harass you because you had your facts all WRONG, and I wanted to educate you. But now, the more you show up, the more disdain I have for you because you clearly, clearly, have an EXTREAMLY limited grasp on the beautiful game, yet you insist on rockin out with your cock out… But your two inches isn’t impressive little boy. Opinions should only be expressed if you have some sort of intelligence, but its always the dumb ones that feel compelled to scream the loudest.

One last thing, did you call me a “jerk-wad”? How do you think that makes you look you clown shoe!

Ps. YOUR WRONG!

“Anything you can do I can do better, anything I do I do better than you”… it goes along those lines anyway….
I dont see what is wrong about playing the peacemaker, Snob- not nob, but snob… duh, herman—-
It is great to see you are purely devoted, and take attacks on our sport offensively and personally, but there aint nutin wrong with jus reasoned arguin, instead of this war of the words… if yall keep up we might have WW3 sometime soon… haha.
One last thing before I get to the topic…. the points stuff was aimed to what u said… I didnt elaborate… crud.
In my mind, La Liga will be an open contest this time round…. it will also be the thriller league, with the likes of Real Madrid’s experianced players combined with their new guns… Ronaldo, Kaka, and Benzema.. who else.. I ferget… versus Barcalona and their “total domination football”, plus Puyol, Henry, now Ibrahimovic, and of course the irreplaceable Messi. We might as well go and poll in the barca-madrid derbies coming up as games of the century in advance.
As I am a devoted MU fan, I look at the other leagues, even MLS, from a neutral’s perspective. I wouldnt be surprised to see Barca continue their run, though it will be a long and tiring road, specially with the challenge Real will soon make, but I wouldnt be surprised if Real managed to beat Barca to the top, either.
La Liga is THE Liga to watch this season…… absolutely, positively.

Alrighty!!!! Someone is getting pretty defensive there nob!!! Once again you choose to put your asinine comments on this post for the world to see!! It stupefies to read your drivel and then try to give it any weight!! If this keeps up (which I hope does), the entire football will know that I have booted you like an Andrea Pirlo free kick. Where do I start with you nob? It seems you are the king of avoidance when it comes to this! Some of the topics we go back and forth on are just plain tired by this time, so I’ll just pummel you where you misstepped again.

Once and for all, admit that the galacticos was a failure!!! Like I said before, when the results do not match expectations, it is considered FAILURE!!!!! Real Madrid paid for all the trophies and did not get them!! That is FAILURE!!! In other words, MISSION NOT ACCOMPLISHED!!! Get that concept?? Some success does not mean that the galacticos gave the proper return on the investment. Bottom line nob. As for your opinion that galacticos represented a period and not the players? Well I poop on that because the period was not that illustrious!! Compare the accomplishments of Madrid during that time to say, AC Milan. Pretty comparable huh? Or ManU, or Juve. None of those teams had the so-called “galacticos”, aka, the best players in the world. So admit you are wrong and just say that the galacticos was a disappointment to the fans as well as the directors. If that was not the case, then the galacticos era would not have ended right? Florentino Perez’ presidency would have continued, right nob? Madrid would have continued paying top dollar for the best players in the world, right? You are a simpleton nob. One who can’t admit when they are wrong. Yes I can admit when I’m wrong. You got me on that whole richest club in the world thing. Yes I was wrong about ManU. I can admit it. Now you admit that you are wrong. Listen, I can surmise that you are an ardent Madrid fan and will defend your team to the end. But if I knew that Barca underachieved, I could admit it.

I cannot believe you had the nerve, the ego, to continue on with the whole Makelele argument after I destroyed you on that point. You had no answer to what I had to say About Makelele, other than to restate your inane opinion that he will go down as one of the greatest defensive midfielders ever. Lame. Oh and for the record, Me not knowing that Makelele was not with Chelsea anymore just goes to show you how insignificant he really is in the world of football at this moment. I’ll leave you with this: when Makelele retires, if Real Madrid throws him a “partido de despedida” like they did for Hierro or Hugo Sanchez, then, and only then will I see your point and admit it. But I’m certain they will not. That honor is only reserved for true legends.

Yes!!!!!!!! You are such a little ninny!!! Dismiss my point about Javier Aguirre as irrelevant!!! You know I’m right!! He saved Osasuna from relegation and turned them into a competitive team. He took Atletico back to the Champions League! He has done more in La Liga then Pellegrini has! So would he be good enough for Madrid? What I’m saying is that by Madrid standards, Pellegrini doesn’t have the pedigree to be the manager, and you know it. And don’t give me that nonsense about a team on a budget!!! Villareal has a very decent budget! Or else how could they afford Marcos Senna, Capdevila, Tomasson, Rossi, Nihat, Mati Fernandez, Javi Navarro, Pires, and the rest of the great players they had or still have?? They had a much bigger budget than Osasuna, thats for sure.

As for your question about Pep, Yeah I was skeptical when he came aboard! Who wasn’t?? But being the Barca legend that he is, I put my faith in him. He was well aware of the style of play required by Barca tradition. On the other hand, you are not skeptical, right? Pellegrini will win it all, right? You are so full of it!!!!!!

I noticed that you didn’t even comment on what I had to say about Madrid barely beating Sociedad! Could it be that already your asshole quivers at the fear of failing?? I bet it does!!!! One more thing, nob. Who are the canteranos on Madrid’s first team right now?? Answer that!

I am not even going to acknowledge the rest of your drivel. You have lost, jack-ass. This forum is all about opinions. And because I chose to say Arsenal would win the EPL this year, and say Bayern woul win the Bundesliga also, you thought you would “educate” me. Ha!! You are the pompous idiot who came on here to say that Madrid would win La Liga this year. Without even knowing how the players are going to jell. Knowing that Madrid tried this before and didn’t win it all.

And one more thing, you classless boob. Look back at our posts and see who was the first to start with the insults. So yeah I called you a “jerk-wad”. But you throw around insults too. That you can’t take them is not my fault. Clown shoe? You are a bigger idiot than I could ever fathom!!!

Snob, you are absolutly right about everything you have stated. Not only do you give valid arguments, not just opinions, you have relevant facts to back everything up that you are saying. I couldn’t agree with you more on the Galacticos subject, but I think everything you are saying is definatly FACT! It is nice to see such a dedicated fan such as yourself defend our team so well.

As for you Herman, you are acting like an ignorrant little kid. I think that Soccer Snob summed it up by calling you a Clown shoe. Couldn’t have put it better myself. If you are such a dedicated fan, why don’t you do some research of your own instead of pulling absolute bullshit out of your ass.

Your getting pretty sad Herman. You speak of “pummeling” and “smashing” but even you have to realize everything you say is baseless and false. Above is documented evidence of your total ignorance on the subject, its there in black and white for the world to see. Anyone with half a brain can enter a Google search and see your WRONG on all fronts. I’m surprised that after all the punishment I’ve put you through that you haven’t followed up on these subjects. Do you need me to post links that categorically prove my arguments trump yours? Well, that’s not going to happen because if your too stupid and lazy to look into it yourself, then you deserve to be stupid and lazy.

I’m sure that you DO realize your WRONG, (let’s be real, you’ve gotten A LOT of things incorrect) but you just enjoy putting up this fake resistance because I AM an asshole. Its true. I’m a prick lol would you expect anything less from a Snob? But I act the way I do because I’m RIGHT and your drawing attention to yourself with rediculous posts. Don’t feel bad, its my job to know more than you.

Since you obviously don’t have friends that know football to help you and you don’t watch football programs where experts might enlighten you, let’s consider your Galacticos argument and see what makes more sense.

You contend the Galacticos only existed when Figo, Zidane, Ronaldo, and Beckham played together (even though Madrid was already star studded with legends such as Raul and Carlos…). Let’s explore further. This squad only lasted two years, from 2003-2005 (Becks arrived in summer 2003, Figo left summer 2005). So by your logic, the two times Madrid broke the transfer record to buy Figo and Zidane doesn’t factor in your interpretation of when the Galacticos existed. So, when Figo and Zidane helped win two Liga’s, one Champions League, and more, they weren’t Galacticos… Ronaldo also arrives in 2002, subsequently winning La Liga that year, but he’s not a Galactico yet either? So, Madrid, under your misguided opinion were only “Galacticos” two years, in which they didn’t win any trophies. Your whole argument is based on these TWO years they didn’t contribute to the trophy cabinet. Now I have a question for you, after Barca’s CL triumph in 2006, what did they win in 2007 and 2008? Nothing! Heaven forbid a team go two full years without winning a title! You should have agreed with me from the beginning, because I say Madrid were unsuccessful for three years (2003-2006)! Do you see the massive flaw in your “opinion”? I can’t paint a clearer picture for you, if you still don’t get it, you should get your head checked!

From the very beginning, all I have said to you is that this Galacticos era has learned from the original, and is solid in every position. I never proclaimed to you that they will win it all this year (even though I believe they have it in them to do it, if they function as a unit). Your the retard that doesn’t comprehend the term Galactico and needed a break down of this period in Madrids history.

You simply make no sense, I don’t even know why your bringing other teams into the equation now. The only team in question, from the beginning, is Madrid, not Barca, Milan, or Man U.

The game against Real, well I didn’t bother getting to it last time because of all your dumb comments, it was one of the least compelling. However, I see your calling me out on it, probably because you failed to prove any valid points elsewhere, and see this as me ducking you. In reality, your just making dumb points. I did miss that game because its a friendly and I had other work to do. But from the highlights, I saw two teams that didn’t get into top gear, but a Madrid that controlled most of the match (especially the second half). And I saw a Madrid that blanked their opponents and won 2-0. If this is your most relevant point, you should have quit a long time ago.

Its important to note, I’m not using opinion to prove you WRONG, I deal in facts, using dates and statistics. You don’t offer any real substance to any of your arguments. Pure opinion. And opinions can clearly be wrong, especially if I show you where your wrong and why. At least you were able to admit your WRONG on Madrids financial success during the Galacticos era, and realize Man U’s debt problem. But how you desperately beg me to concede to you after you once again fail to PROVE your point, is sad indeed.

Another thing your clearly WRONG about is Gago as a whole (meaning: you don’t know anything about him) and his value to Madrid (your welcome for teaching you the concept of depth). I’d like to hear you back track out of that one too.

And Makelele, well if you got off your lazy ass and did some research on him, you would see his importance, and the high standard his teammates and coaches regarded him with. Not just at Madrid but Chelsea too. But I’m not about to write out all of his honours for you. And the fact you didn’t know he left CFC for PSG demonstrates your casual approach to football, but you talk as if your an authority on the sport. An interesting point to remember is that Madrids misfortunes coincide with Makelele’s departure and Beckhams arrival…

Pellegrini took a club smaller than Osasuna, and definatly smaller than Atletico to a CL semi final. Greater than anything Aguirre ever did with those two teams. And you say Villarreal isn’t on a budget? They have quality players like Senna, Capdevila, Pires… That are in the twilight of their careers and won’t sign another big contract anywhere. Rossi is quality, but Pellegrini saw his class and snapped him up cheap before he became a star, same with Mati. And the reason they have more buying power than Osasuna (as if that’s hard to accomplish) is thanks to Pellegrini and how he guided Villarreal to consistent top half finishes in the league, and CL qualification. But compare his budget to that of other CL teams, they’re hardly on level terms.

Why do you resist me so much Herman? Aren’t you having fun learning about football through my lessons? You clearly need help, and you even ask for it! Actually, you ask me more questions than make valid remarks! Case and point: “who are the canteranos on the first team?”. Any self reliant adult could easily have searched the answer to this online, but I appreciate you asking me for the answer, it shows you value my opinion and consider me an expert on football with question after question. So the answer you desperately crave: Raul, Casillas, Guti, Torres, Granero, Negredo Arbeloa, Adan, and De la Red (although Ruben needs medical clearance before playing this season due to a heart condition). I expect this answer is satisfactory… Well actually I expect your going to have something stupid to say as usual, despite having the clear honest answer in your face.

I would also really appreciate it if you stop lying and quit putting words in my mouth too (I know your desperate to win back some points, but at least be a man and stop polluting this thread with lies). I never argued Madrid would win La Liga this year, I left my personal beliefs to myself when speaking with you. YOU are the one that assumes I hate Barca, and say I’m envious. Find me one quote where I bash anything other than you. The fact is I think its great Barca is winning trophies! They are Madrids greatest rivals, and every great team needs a great antagonist. I know that no matter how many trophies Barca collects, they will never amount to Madrids greatness. Barcelona and their fans are doomed to eternally be second best behind Real Madrid! So stick to the topic and stop pulling shit out your ass, if you can’t keep up, at least be a man.

And I can’t help but laugh when you used “jerk-wad”, that’s all. I remember using that on friends when I was about 9 years old. I was hoping to draw out some more clever insults from you. I guess you’ll have to forgive me for expecting more originality from a muppet like you, originality denotes intelligence, something you lack.

be a man? wtf is that bullshit!?!

hahaha, what a bunch of babies.

this is not a discusion anymore, this a pissing match.
good posting guys, really intelligent.

well, i wont pretend to know who will win it all, but i suppose if Madrid start clicking right away, they would definately be the favorite. not to say that barca wont have anything to say about it…and villareal atletico valencia sevilla are still no pushovers…

my dutch blood still feels a bit bad for all the dutchies stuck on Madrid, but surely they would have seen this coming and should well have known better…what a mess. what is pellegrini thinking taking that one on…oh yea.. cha ching! haha
but seriously, its probably his head if they dont come through…
im suppose inclined to not like Madrid becuase i cant really appreciate how they’ve been doing things, but theres no rule against buying up all the best players you can, so what can you really say.

Babies? Why are you being so mean Gooner? This isn’t the place for insults!

Ps I hope the Dutchies stay with the exeption of Royston and Van der Vaart.

mumumeah….. when will WW3 end? The nuclear bombs wont stop exploding, the cannons keep on selling,and the AK-47s wont stop chattering away…
hehe.
Mr. Van Persie, if you dont mind me calling yu that, this aint p%$$ing match no more…. it is WW3 between Snob and that herman douche bag. And this sure aint the place to insult people, especially with the snob round here… hes slamming people left and right.
As I have said before, I wont be surprised if barca wins again… though I hope they dont get the treble again… uh that kills me… but I wont be surprised at all if Real gets vengeance, either…. never before in the 11 years of me being a footie and ManU fan, which means I was 3 when I started being a Red Devil, (and no, not because of the trophies, that didnt mean anything to me back then… there has always been somin about ManU- just hearing the name- that stirs somin in my blood, literally) have I ever seen what looks like a completely open contest between two clubs as this… if WW3 ever ends here on this article, the Barca v. Real Madrid derbies will WW4 on steroids. Wo man, like I said in my last post, la liga is certainly THE liga to watch this season.