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Why do Manchester City defend the indefensible?

Graham Fisher in Editorial, English Premier League 23 Sep 2009

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A couple of weeks ago I wrote a piece on my fears for the game in England regarding the perceived increase in crowd violence following the awful scenes at the game between West Ham and Millwall.

Last week I wrote a piece about the appalling behaviour of Emmanuel Adebayor in the game between Manchester City and Arsenal and looked at the role players have in ensuring that they do not inflame potential crowd trouble.

Tensions

On Sunday we witnessed a magnificent Manchester derby when United eventually beat City 4-3 in an absolute thriller. With the game ebbing and flowing and tensions already running high because of the nature of the game, the atmosphere was fantastic but potentially combustible.

After United got their late, late winner a stupid fan ran onto the pitch. Twenty-one year old Jake Joseph Clarke has been charged with going onto a playing area without lawful authority or excuse and will appear before Trafford Magistrates’ Court on September 30. I hope he is banned from football grounds for good. He was an idiot and we must stop fans from entering the field of play.

Restrained

However, the stewards at Old Trafford did a very good job. One of them chased Clarke and brought him to the ground with an expert rugby tackle. Other stewards assisted him and they restrained him and got him back on to his feet. As he was stood there, totally restrained, City’s Craig Bellamy, a man it is very difficult to like, walked over to him and slapped him around the head. It was an equally stupid and unforgivable thing to do. It was hardly a brave act as the man was being fully restrained at the time.

Quite clearly Manchester City have to take action against their player. They have defended Adebayor’s actions claiming that he didn’t deliberately injure Robin van Persie when the rest of the world believes he did and they have defended his goal celebrations despite the rest of the world seeing why they were stupid and inflammatory.

Discipline

So what are City going to do about Bellamy? Nothing. It has been announced that Manchester City will not discipline striker Craig Bellamy. I find that unbelievable.

When asked if the club would take action, City assistant manager Mark Bowen told the BBC,

“No. I don’t think there is any need to. My take is that he thought the fella might spit in his face or something. He came very close and moved towards him. Craig, with an open hand, just pushed the fella away.”

Why would Bowen say this when the whole world could clearly see that Bellamy walked at least twenty yards directly towards the fan before doing what he did?

Mark Hughes has also defended Bellamy,

“I did not see it but the guy should not have been on the pitch. That is not acceptable. Brian Clough clipped someone’s ear. He was lauded a national hero. Maybe it’ll be the same with Craig but I doubt it.”

Nobody disagrees that the fan being on the pitch was unacceptable. If Hughes believes that what Bellamy did would make him any sort of hero then I have the deepest fear for our game and the levels of discipline being applied at certain clubs.

Action

The FA are looking into the incident and will announce this week whether they are going to take any action against Bellamy. I hope they do.

Bellamy had just scored a goal that he thought had rescued a point for his side in a high pressure, high profile game and it had then been snatched away. I totally understand why he would have been feeling angry, frustrated, upset, disappointed, and every emotion under the sun. Having said that his actions were indefensible and I am saddened that Manchester City are trying to defend them.

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  • Brad

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    So, the officials are wimps, then. . . who the (heck) does the FA think these refs are? Babysitters? If I had been ref that day, I would’ve given the red to Bellamy.

  • Kevin The Brit

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    Bellamy had always been a “hothead”. Newcastle had to get rid of him because he was always fighting with Alan Shearer of all people.

    You have got to feel sorry for him aas bery few people have anything nice to say about him. Except his Mother of course. He gets away with a lot because people & Officials truly feel sorry for the chap!

    Kevin The Brit

  • fatai

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    ade did not dessrve punishment aganist arsenal or what did you see

  • gooner-11

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    hahaha, oops

    yea, id say unlikely, i thought they’d have reviewed both adebayor incidents at the same time…silly me.

  • fifthcolumnblue

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    @ Gooner 11 – You are entirely correct mate, any team that only fields a starting 6 (vi) is most definitely going to come under scrutiny! LOL

    P.S. Adebayor’s case (for the celebration) has not come before the FA yet, so he might still get some form of punishment, although seeing as Gary Chuckle got away scott-free, it’s looking unlikely.

  • gooner-11

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    haha, good response, Graham, though i wish you gave some of the shite right back.

    i would like to see players act like the professionals the are supposed to be.
    yes yes, that includes Rvp (before you go crucifying anyone)

    heres what ive learned from reading these posts:
    -bellamy, adebayor and neville are all equal in their douchebag-ery
    -city fans are hilarious, think everyone is out to get them and can’t understand that when a team buys a full starting VI they will receive media attention and scrutiny- i hope portsmouth will do the same thing
    -top managers defend their players, really?!?!?! wow, could it be they’re trying to deflect the attention off of their players? is it a coincidence that the top 2 managers around are your main perpetrators.

    and by the way, adebayor was not punished for his celebration.

    personally, im glad Man City is buying themselves into contention, the better teams, the better the matches are all around! too bad they havent bought any class, i suppose. regardless, exciting times for City fans…

  • Graham Fisher

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    OK, OK, I seem to have upset a few City fans and I fully understand what you are saying. I have no axe to grind against City and as a Watford fan, I have absolutely no allegiance to any top four team. Lastly, I’m not American, I’m English!

    Just wanted to clear that all up. Everything else you say about me may well be true. 🙂

  • Waleade Silvers

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    The EPL managed to come up with another absurdity and disgrace to the game when the refree who allowed 7 minutes of extra time when a 4 minutes notice had been given. Not even a warning was given despite his decision on the pitch that day being responsible for City’s loss. Thumbs up to city players for messing up Alex Ferguson and co’s party. United had those 3 points but surely did not win that game.

  • John

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    One thing that annoys Man City is that everything that they do is remorselessly hunted down and displayed on TV,Radio,pressand the internet.
    Why are you not asking for G Neville to be brought to account for running down towards the City fans and celebrating Owens goal. He then realised what he was doing and pretended to warm up. Is that not incitement. Adebayor got hammered by everyone for his actions, what will Neville get? He will hardly get a mention.
    No wonder City feel that they have to defend themselves.

  • ALAN MEADOWS

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    The answer to your headline question is quite clear as Manchester City are not the only club to defend the indefensible, they ALL do it, and I am not going to waste time and effort in detailing the nonsense propounded by the like of Wenger and Fergusen over the years. They do it in EVERY situation because they know that occasionally they will get a break whereas if they held their collective hands up and said “yes our player was wrong” then they wouldn’t ever get away with anything. It’s simply, defend everything and sometimes you are bound to get lucky.

  • italia7482

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    Dude relax, maybe go out a couple of times a week,who knows you might actually get a girlfriend one day and then none of this will matter.

    I noticed you conveniently forgot to mention the gary neville celebration/Warming up routine, that took place during the same game, or even rio grabbing bellers by the throat,or the coin thrown at a city player.
    would you care to explain why these things are no part of your rant is it bcause they arent very anti city??

  • Bellwhaft

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    Jeez… do you people ever give up ?

    Have you written an article about Gary Neville running the length of the sideline to dance directly in front of the City fans after Owen’s winner ???
    I Thought not !!

    Adebayor was slaughtered in the press for doing the same thing, but after this incident the silence is deafening.

    Anything to do with the fact that you lean heavily towards positive reporting of the CURRENT big 4 teams ? Probably !

    I tell you what. Write a scathing report about Neville and we’ll call it quits.

    can you hear it ?
    can you hear it ?
    The sound of the big blue train rumbling towards you ?
    You know it’s coming so get used to it

  • Tony

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    Firstly I think you’ll find every club defends their players in this way, Arsen Wenger, for example,is renowned for seeing nothing. Secondly, Bellamy did not ‘slap’ the player as you claim. He approached the fan and obviously had a few choice words to say. If you look closely the fan made a sharp movement towards Bellamy which looked as though he was attempting to spit or headbut him. Bellamy then pushes his face away, he certainlt does not slap him. Bellamy should not have confronted him I agree, but the incident justified no more than a ticking off. Adebayor? Guilty of a shocking challenge that deserved a ban, but a booking was enough for the celebration. A little balance here would also be fair. How about Van Persie’s celebration, clearly swearing at the City fans? Neville coming onto the pitch and running to celebrate in front of the City fans? It’s football mate, don’t make out it’s just City who turn a blind eye.

  • Mick Travs

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    QUOTE: ..and I am saddened that Manchester City are trying to defend them.

    Do get a life.

  • John Waugh

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    You say “So what are City going to do about Bellamy? Nothing. It has been announced that Manchester City will not discipline striker Craig Bellamy. I find that unbelievable.”

    In response, what do you expect Manchester United to do regarding Gary Nevilles inflammatory celebration at the end of the match?

  • Mick

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    Please report the facts correctly. Bellamy didn’t “slap” the fan in pushed him with an open palm. What is this total obsession from the press with City stepping out of line? Could the sympathies of most press reporters be possibly against a newcomer breaking up the big four? Why is there virtually no coverage of Neville’s celebrations in front of the City fans which was similar to Adebayors. Neville unlike Adebayor has already been fined for doing the same thing against Liverpool. Can we please have some balanced reporting, not witchhunts.

  • martin

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    it would seem that the FA agree with Man City on this one.They obviously don’t but how could they prosecute Bellamy and then sweep Ferdinand’s throttling of Bellamy, Neville’s and Ferguson’s goading of the away supporters and the coin throwing and pitch invasion incidents under the carpet?Bellamy got off with it because the FA are scared to death of Alec Ferguson and Man United. This is why Mark Hughes must defend his players when his players are indefensible. Because the FA defends the indefensible from the players of Man United and Arsenal. How the hell did Van Persie get away with his two footed lunge on Adebayor and his goal celebration in the game last week? Also, there were five goals, substitutions, and lengthy injury stoppages in that game last week, yet less than four minutes injury time was played. These are the reasons Mark Hughes does what he does. It’s bloody obvious really, isn’t it?

  • clevblue

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    What is REALLY the thinking behind your article. An aggressive fan got a push in the face. He must have been aggressive to want to run on the pitch in the first place. What has REALLY got up your nose?

    Adebayor has apologised and accepted his punishment, not enough for you?

    I’ll tell you what I think – you don’t like the fact that manchester City are going to influence the outcome of the premier league table this season, your own allegiance to whatever team is clouding your judgement.

    Get used to it we are here to stay.

  • Gordo

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    No mention in your article about the United fans throwing things at the City players at half time and no mention of Neville’s antics when United scored the winner can you write an article on these subjects with the same passion. Clearly United should be fined and Neville banned because he had already been warned by the FA about his celebration against Liverpool. But some how I don’t think you will.

  • fifthcolumnblue

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    City are the victims of a hysterical media and the bandwagon jumpers such as the author of this article. Please do me a favour and revisit every bit of controversy involving arsenal manure, chelsea and liverpool and I’m sure you will see plenty of “defending the indefensible”. From Wenger’s failure to see virtually every sin committed byone of his players (yet he sees clearly enough when sinned against), to his defense of a Dennis Bergkamp elbow (“He did not mean to injure, merely to impress” – WTF???), there is a long history of manager’s defending their players when everyone else can see there is no case for the defense. So there is a great deal of precedent for such things, although I wholeheartedly disagree that Craig Bellamy did anything wrong, and whilst accepting Adebayor’s ban for violent conduct, believe that thousands of slow motion replays made the incident look far far worse than it was. As to banning him for his celebrations? You are having a laugh right?

    All this article really tells me is that the author, like thousands of others has jumped on the anti-City bandwagon because for the first time in PL history, there is a threat to the dominance of the big 4, and they and their fans don’t like it at all. The more hatred that is printed about City, the more the little sheeple that read drivel like this will be incited to join in. Unfortunately for the haters, their little campaign has brought the fans, players and management together and we will only get stronger as a result.

    Own goal to the City haters I’m afraid.

  • Lancet

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    I think the Adebayor celebration is entirely defendable, both morally and legally. In fact, I think that people who have made a fuss about the celebration rather than pointing the finger at the fans who racially abused him and then reacted violently, are the ones who need to look at themselves. The reason that City are defending themselves is that they are most definitely being singled out by themedia and the FA. Has Neville been charged for running the length of the pitch and celebrating in front of City fans on Sunday? NO! Maybe you would be wiser to look at the lack of consistency that is currently taking place than just taking another tired old swipe at City. And for you to be saying things on behalf of “the rest of the world” is wrong. Don’t speak for other people, mate. There are others who can see different points of views on these matters and not all of them are City fans. Oh and Bellamy pushed him, he didn’t slap him. There is a difference, one hurts, the other doesn’t. I’ll happily show you if you like.

  • Husker Blu

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    That’s right, you guys concentrate solely on Bellamy’s ‘wrong doings’ in the game, and bring up Adebayor’s from the previous game.
    While totally ignoring Neville’s antagonising of the City supporters in the same vein as Ade’s, (something for which he is already on a suspended ban for doing against Liverpool) and also the coin that struck sub Garrido on the head on heading for the tunnel………

    Suppose you wouldn’t want to upset Fergie and co uh?

  • Mo

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    Awww… a bit late aren’t we? The FA already confirmed yesterday that Bellamy won’t be charged.

  • Mo

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    Awww… a bit late aren’t we? The FA already confirmed yesterday that Bellamy won’t be charged.

  • Husker Blu

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    That’s right, you guys concentrate solely on Bellamy’s ‘wrong doings’ in the game, and bring up Adebayor’s from the previous game.
    While totally ignoring Neville’s antagonising of the City supporters in the same vein as Ade’s, (something for which he is already on a suspended ban for doing against Liverpool) and also the coin that struck sub Garrido on the head on heading for the tunnel………

    Suppose you wouldn’t want to upset Fergie and co uh?

  • Lancet

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    I think the Adebayor celebration is entirely defendable, both morally and legally. In fact, I think that people who have made a fuss about the celebration rather than pointing the finger at the fans who racially abused him and then reacted violently, are the ones who need to look at themselves. The reason that City are defending themselves is that they are most definitely being singled out by themedia and the FA. Has Neville been charged for running the length of the pitch and celebrating in front of City fans on Sunday? NO! Maybe you would be wiser to look at the lack of consistency that is currently taking place than just taking another tired old swipe at City. And for you to be saying things on behalf of “the rest of the world” is wrong. Don’t speak for other people, mate. There are others who can see different points of views on these matters and not all of them are City fans. Oh and Bellamy pushed him, he didn’t slap him. There is a difference, one hurts, the other doesn’t. I’ll happily show you if you like.

  • fifthcolumnblue

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    City are the victims of a hysterical media and the bandwagon jumpers such as the author of this article. Please do me a favour and revisit every bit of controversy involving arsenal manure, chelsea and liverpool and I’m sure you will see plenty of “defending the indefensible”. From Wenger’s failure to see virtually every sin committed byone of his players (yet he sees clearly enough when sinned against), to his defense of a Dennis Bergkamp elbow (“He did not mean to injure, merely to impress” – WTF???), there is a long history of manager’s defending their players when everyone else can see there is no case for the defense. So there is a great deal of precedent for such things, although I wholeheartedly disagree that Craig Bellamy did anything wrong, and whilst accepting Adebayor’s ban for violent conduct, believe that thousands of slow motion replays made the incident look far far worse than it was. As to banning him for his celebrations? You are having a laugh right?

    All this article really tells me is that the author, like thousands of others has jumped on the anti-City bandwagon because for the first time in PL history, there is a threat to the dominance of the big 4, and they and their fans don’t like it at all. The more hatred that is printed about City, the more the little sheeple that read drivel like this will be incited to join in. Unfortunately for the haters, their little campaign has brought the fans, players and management together and we will only get stronger as a result.

    Own goal to the City haters I’m afraid.

  • Gordo

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    No mention in your article about the United fans throwing things at the City players at half time and no mention of Neville’s antics when United scored the winner can you write an article on these subjects with the same passion. Clearly United should be fined and Neville banned because he had already been warned by the FA about his celebration against Liverpool. But some how I don’t think you will.

  • clevblue

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    What is REALLY the thinking behind your article. An aggressive fan got a push in the face. He must have been aggressive to want to run on the pitch in the first place. What has REALLY got up your nose?

    Adebayor has apologised and accepted his punishment, not enough for you?

    I’ll tell you what I think – you don’t like the fact that manchester City are going to influence the outcome of the premier league table this season, your own allegiance to whatever team is clouding your judgement.

    Get used to it we are here to stay.

  • martin

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    it would seem that the FA agree with Man City on this one.They obviously don’t but how could they prosecute Bellamy and then sweep Ferdinand’s throttling of Bellamy, Neville’s and Ferguson’s goading of the away supporters and the coin throwing and pitch invasion incidents under the carpet?Bellamy got off with it because the FA are scared to death of Alec Ferguson and Man United. This is why Mark Hughes must defend his players when his players are indefensible. Because the FA defends the indefensible from the players of Man United and Arsenal. How the hell did Van Persie get away with his two footed lunge on Adebayor and his goal celebration in the game last week? Also, there were five goals, substitutions, and lengthy injury stoppages in that game last week, yet less than four minutes injury time was played. These are the reasons Mark Hughes does what he does. It’s bloody obvious really, isn’t it?

  • Mick

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    Please report the facts correctly. Bellamy didn’t “slap” the fan in pushed him with an open palm. What is this total obsession from the press with City stepping out of line? Could the sympathies of most press reporters be possibly against a newcomer breaking up the big four? Why is there virtually no coverage of Neville’s celebrations in front of the City fans which was similar to Adebayors. Neville unlike Adebayor has already been fined for doing the same thing against Liverpool. Can we please have some balanced reporting, not witchhunts.

  • John Waugh

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    You say “So what are City going to do about Bellamy? Nothing. It has been announced that Manchester City will not discipline striker Craig Bellamy. I find that unbelievable.”

    In response, what do you expect Manchester United to do regarding Gary Nevilles inflammatory celebration at the end of the match?

  • Mick Travs

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    QUOTE: ..and I am saddened that Manchester City are trying to defend them.

    Do get a life.

  • Tony

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    Firstly I think you’ll find every club defends their players in this way, Arsen Wenger, for example,is renowned for seeing nothing. Secondly, Bellamy did not ‘slap’ the player as you claim. He approached the fan and obviously had a few choice words to say. If you look closely the fan made a sharp movement towards Bellamy which looked as though he was attempting to spit or headbut him. Bellamy then pushes his face away, he certainlt does not slap him. Bellamy should not have confronted him I agree, but the incident justified no more than a ticking off. Adebayor? Guilty of a shocking challenge that deserved a ban, but a booking was enough for the celebration. A little balance here would also be fair. How about Van Persie’s celebration, clearly swearing at the City fans? Neville coming onto the pitch and running to celebrate in front of the City fans? It’s football mate, don’t make out it’s just City who turn a blind eye.

  • Bellwhaft

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    Jeez… do you people ever give up ?

    Have you written an article about Gary Neville running the length of the sideline to dance directly in front of the City fans after Owen’s winner ???
    I Thought not !!

    Adebayor was slaughtered in the press for doing the same thing, but after this incident the silence is deafening.

    Anything to do with the fact that you lean heavily towards positive reporting of the CURRENT big 4 teams ? Probably !

    I tell you what. Write a scathing report about Neville and we’ll call it quits.

    can you hear it ?
    can you hear it ?
    The sound of the big blue train rumbling towards you ?
    You know it’s coming so get used to it

  • italia7482

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    Dude relax, maybe go out a couple of times a week,who knows you might actually get a girlfriend one day and then none of this will matter.

    I noticed you conveniently forgot to mention the gary neville celebration/Warming up routine, that took place during the same game, or even rio grabbing bellers by the throat,or the coin thrown at a city player.
    would you care to explain why these things are no part of your rant is it bcause they arent very anti city??

  • ALAN MEADOWS

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    The answer to your headline question is quite clear as Manchester City are not the only club to defend the indefensible, they ALL do it, and I am not going to waste time and effort in detailing the nonsense propounded by the like of Wenger and Fergusen over the years. They do it in EVERY situation because they know that occasionally they will get a break whereas if they held their collective hands up and said “yes our player was wrong” then they wouldn’t ever get away with anything. It’s simply, defend everything and sometimes you are bound to get lucky.

  • John

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    One thing that annoys Man City is that everything that they do is remorselessly hunted down and displayed on TV,Radio,pressand the internet.
    Why are you not asking for G Neville to be brought to account for running down towards the City fans and celebrating Owens goal. He then realised what he was doing and pretended to warm up. Is that not incitement. Adebayor got hammered by everyone for his actions, what will Neville get? He will hardly get a mention.
    No wonder City feel that they have to defend themselves.

  • Waleade Silvers

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    The EPL managed to come up with another absurdity and disgrace to the game when the refree who allowed 7 minutes of extra time when a 4 minutes notice had been given. Not even a warning was given despite his decision on the pitch that day being responsible for City’s loss. Thumbs up to city players for messing up Alex Ferguson and co’s party. United had those 3 points but surely did not win that game.

  • Graham Fisher

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    OK, OK, I seem to have upset a few City fans and I fully understand what you are saying. I have no axe to grind against City and as a Watford fan, I have absolutely no allegiance to any top four team. Lastly, I’m not American, I’m English!

    Just wanted to clear that all up. Everything else you say about me may well be true. 🙂

  • gooner-11

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    haha, good response, Graham, though i wish you gave some of the shite right back.

    i would like to see players act like the professionals the are supposed to be.
    yes yes, that includes Rvp (before you go crucifying anyone)

    heres what ive learned from reading these posts:
    -bellamy, adebayor and neville are all equal in their douchebag-ery
    -city fans are hilarious, think everyone is out to get them and can’t understand that when a team buys a full starting VI they will receive media attention and scrutiny- i hope portsmouth will do the same thing
    -top managers defend their players, really?!?!?! wow, could it be they’re trying to deflect the attention off of their players? is it a coincidence that the top 2 managers around are your main perpetrators.

    and by the way, adebayor was not punished for his celebration.

    personally, im glad Man City is buying themselves into contention, the better teams, the better the matches are all around! too bad they havent bought any class, i suppose. regardless, exciting times for City fans…

  • fifthcolumnblue

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    @ Gooner 11 – You are entirely correct mate, any team that only fields a starting 6 (vi) is most definitely going to come under scrutiny! LOL

    P.S. Adebayor’s case (for the celebration) has not come before the FA yet, so he might still get some form of punishment, although seeing as Gary Chuckle got away scott-free, it’s looking unlikely.

  • gooner-11

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    hahaha, oops

    yea, id say unlikely, i thought they’d have reviewed both adebayor incidents at the same time…silly me.

  • fatai

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    ade did not dessrve punishment aganist arsenal or what did you see

  • Kevin The Brit

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    Bellamy had always been a “hothead”. Newcastle had to get rid of him because he was always fighting with Alan Shearer of all people.

    You have got to feel sorry for him aas bery few people have anything nice to say about him. Except his Mother of course. He gets away with a lot because people & Officials truly feel sorry for the chap!

    Kevin The Brit

  • Brad

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    So, the officials are wimps, then. . . who the (heck) does the FA think these refs are? Babysitters? If I had been ref that day, I would’ve given the red to Bellamy.

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