Tuesday, November 19, 2024

Why Manchester United might win the Premier League and Arsenal won’t

My Wembley dream is over again after my beloved Watford lost 2-1 to Tottenham in the Carling Cup quarter-final last night. Watford were outclassed but not humiliated, so in these fairly desperate times for the Hornets, I’ll settle for that.

‘Nice prediction’

With my team out of the cup, at least I’ve got my world renowned skills of prediction to to turn to! Yesterday, as well as predicting in hope rather than belief that Watford would win, I confidently predicted that Blackburn would beat a weakened Manchester United side at Old Trafford. As ‘Kids Soccer’ said in the comments on my article, ‘nice prediction Fisher.’!

As it turned out, Manchester United put on a wonderful show, beating Blackburn 5-3. It could have been more and only a lack of concentration allowing the visitors to score twice in the last six minutes made the game seem closer than it actually was.

Formidable

We have all marvelled at Arsenal’s reserves this season, rightly so, when they destroyed Sheffield United and Wigan. It all came to an end at Burnley the other night, but they are a pretty formidable young side.

What is scary for the rest of the Premier League about last night’s Manchester United win is that against an almost full strength Blackburn, United achieved the result without, Edwin van der Sar, Rio Ferdinand, Nemanja Vidic, Patrice Evra, Cristiano Ronaldo, Darren Fletcher, Michael Carrick, Ji Sun Park, Wayne Rooney and Dimitar Berbatov.

Remarkable

Just eighteen year old Rafael Da Silva remained from the team that beat Manchester City on Sunday. That is remarkable. That is what you call strength in depth!

The difference between Arsenal’s Carling Cup side and Manchester United’s Carling Cup side is that Arsenal’s brilliant team consist almost entirely of promising teenagers. United can turn to the likes of Ben Foster, Gary Neville, John O’Shea, Nani, Anderson, Ryan Giggs and Carlos Tevez.. These are not promising players, they are experienced Premier League, international players who have been there and done it.

Learn

How wonderful it must be for the likes of Evans, Gibson, Possebon, Welbeck and Manucho to learn from playing alongside these types of players. The Arsenal youngsters have to do it on their own. How they would benefit from playing alongside Gallas or Fabregas or Adebayor.

The star of the show for United last night was the twenty-four year old Argentinian striker Carlos Tevez. He chipped in with four goals. It was a timely reminder to Sir Alex Ferguson of just how good he is. He could have done little more to stake a claim for a place in the team at the weekend.

Dilemma

It is an interesting dilemma for Sir Alex. Does he stick with those two average strikers Rooney and Berbatov or does he bring in Tevez? Does he keep faith with Carrick and Fletcher or will Anderson or Giggs get the nod? Will Park keep his place or will Nani come into the side? Does he stick with young Da Silva or turn to the experience of Gary Neville?

How many of these type of selection issues have the young Arsenal Carling Cup side actually given Arsene Wenger? Good and promising though the youngsters are, how many of them are genuinely challenging for a first team place?

Confidence

I believe this is the major difference between the two clubs. Edwin van der Sar knows that if he has a couple of bad games, Sir Alex will bring in either the Polish international Tomasz Kuszczak or the England international Ben Foster. If Almunia slips up, will Wenger really turn to Fabianski with any confidence?

The dilemma that Tevez has given Sir Alex Ferguson in his front line is a genuine one. Have Nicklas Bendtner and Carlos Vela really made Wenger consider leaving out Van Persie or Adebayor?

Competition

There we have the reason why Manchester United will challenge for the Premier League title and Arsenal won’t. United have competition for every position on the pitch. Arsenal don’t.

Having made that very bold statement, Arsenal fans should rejoice because my prediction skills are such that the Gunners will now almost certainly run away with the Premiership and leave me with even more of the proverbial ‘egg on my face’ than I already have!

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ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Graham Fisher


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  • твoйтaÑ‚apин

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    Мдааа… Это финиш… По-видимому пора бы расслабиться и отдохнуть 🙂

  • FOX

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    Arsenal will be down but they will bounce back they are young they can only improve with their average age of 22. About the lack on experience, i dont think it matters to much. we almost won the premier league last year we didnt win it not cause of cause of lack of experience but cause of injuries. We have replaced the players who have left with Arshavin and Nasri we are back where we was. But the differents now is our young players are more experienced all this talk they lack experience well they will but they will gain that experience the more games they will play. We do have experience example Arshavin, Manual Almunia, William Gallas, Thomas Rosicky and Silvestre. Its just a matter of time now we have to learn from this season and use it to motervate us for next. Its does take Arsenal time to start winning building a young side takes time. Like when Arsene Wenger first came in he won the double but didnt win anything then for 4 years building a young side takes time. This side we are building is a new side from the one of 2006 who reached the Champions League. Its been 3 years since then so i predict next season we will probably win something if not next season deffinately the season after. But i do feel it is essential we win next season the fans are getting restless.

  • ismail

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    i am truely gunners for life..no matter how down we are at the moment. i believe that next season we will shine and gun every one under ………….cos we have the talent…i am always arsenal for real……..

  • Brad Lovell

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    kenmwu from Dec 13th has a good point… Wenger started out prety good, but he has burned on out ( hear that jeenal?) and i aint bettin that he will make a come back ever. And it aint wise to sell good players, even if you get a lot of cash in return…… I’d rather build up by buyin a few good players, like David Villa ( did y’all see that hat trick he got in the Euro 2008?). That’s what a good manager, like fergie, does: buy new players to build up on success.

  • Brad Lovell

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    I just read that comment by jeenal on Dec 14th… Man city aint gonna do a thing to MU! We just beat em 1-0 ( Nice goal by Wayne Roooooooooooooonay) so what then Gunny! Man city just got s***ed, and ur team, Gunny, is next!

    GO RED DEVILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Brad Lovell

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    Arsenal won’t win. How can they? Wenger focuses on getting young players, which ain’t always bad: did you see how one defender bicycled the ball away to keep Liverpool from winning the game between those two teams 2-1? Anyway, MU is at the table’s top, the Gunners ain’t, and Arsenal has Liverpool, Chelsea, and Aston Villa to go through to even have a shot at 1st place. Some of my ancestors came from Manchester and supported MU, and so do I, so its my desire for Arsenal to go down, especially after that 2-1 loss MU got at the Gunner’s hands earlier this season.
    GO RED DEVILZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Devin

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    well actually man u and chelsea do make a lot of profit for winning. Man u got profit from winning the double last year, and Chelsea got profit for just coming in second for the Champions League, i wouldnt be able to say if they made anything off getting second place in the league. Back to this season, im really hoping Man u will win the league atleast, of course we all want more but at the least that would be nice, they are technically only 1 point behind Liverpool at the top if you figure they win there unplayed games against Fulham and Wigan, which they will. but they need to beat or atleast tie Chelsea or things r gona get a lot harder for them, Arsenal r a great side but like everyone says they lack the experience at the moment, and its hard to say they could still win without Fabregas for awhile, i just hope they stay top 4 and maybe play the spoiler a little bit.

  • chris horton

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    I’ve heard some talk about letting Flamini go, it was a bit of a gamble, he played well 3/4 of one season. Big deal if Milan wanted to risk all that cash for a player that played well for part of a season so be it. I think it comes down to Arsenal wanting to be profitable at the end, I would like to know how much Man U or Chelsea profit at the end of each season

  • Emmanuel Egboh

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    There’s been eno4 venom already lashed out ere. I strongly advise all u gooner’s wit a foul mouth 2 go wash it wit soap & stop nagn bout ur unbeatn run of yester years. While u’re at it, fire ur confused Arse manager or beta still, relegate him to ur reserve team to go fiddle sorry discover ur youngsters. Let’s all welcome Aston Villa to d ‘big 4’. A welcomed exit 4 u gooners, go get ur house right.
    P.S- neva saw d silverware u won 4 d unbeatn run

  • toro

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    when it comes to experience, what arsenal team are having now is lacking of.
    but remember, as mentioned before, if the likes of rosicky and eduardo are not injured, and with the current position arsenal are now, would you still predict that arsenal are really out?
    now that cesc is out for 4 months which mean that he wouldn’t be playing until the end of the season (let’s hope his speedy recovery). now, i think wenger should think of digging deep of his pocket looking for a (better & experienced) replacement for the skipper, if he really wants his team to be considered “contender”.
    i must sadly again admit that i couldn’t see arsenal winning the championship this year. if i were wenger, i would rather concentrate FA cup with only 6 games to win. if he could make double by winning UCL, that would be sensational! 🙂
    again, IF wenger finally buy some great talented experienced players in january, would you still predict arsenal are really out? 🙂

  • kenmwu

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    They could’ve kept Flamini if Arsenal were willing to throw in a little more money, but they weren’t and now Wengers still scrounging for some quality midfield players. And how has United or Chelsea not built on their teams? They removed players they did not need and added QUALITY players in positions they thought was necessary to beef up. Man Utd are one of the biggest clubs in the world, you don’t see any world class players pissing their pants to play for Arsenal do you? Its either Man Utd or Madrid. Case closed.

  • Phuc Bui

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    Arse just can never win any trophy because Wenger keeps training young players, the rest of their team are about 20 or younger… Just look at the past… when Arse has a buch of experienced stars such as Dennis, Henry, Veira, Lausen, Tony Adams, Campbell, David Seaman…, there were nothing is able to stop them at that time… but in my opinions, Wenger should improve his team’s performance by signing with experienced players who might inspire the young team to go further. Anyways, I’m a craze United’s fan :), i hope Man Utd will do their best and get the 3th consecutive PL trophy, but still hope Arsenal to be MU’s best rival. 😀

  • baka

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    Shut up, Arse-nal fanboy. You make all Arse-nal fans look stupid.

  • jeenal

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    P.S man u n chelsea doesn not build on their team…they jus keep buyin more n more n more n hope some one or the other ll fit in n do the job…that doesnt need fergie s exceptional brilliance …make me the manager gimme money i ll do it…i ll really sad to see tht ths s wat the beautiful game has become..trophy goes to the richest…really sad..if not arsenal i d rather support crystal palace or derby than becomin a glory buyin scum bag..those clubs have more soul n passion for the game thn man u even if they dont have more money…dont worry soon man city ll buy a team n kick ur united ass out of manchester n give u a taste of ur own medicine…hold on…

  • jeenal

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    dude man pls for god sake stop blabberin without knowin shit…we didnt sell flamini….he was a free agent at the end of last season n he signed for milan …typical glory hunter ..all fart no shit..lol..i tol u once i tell u again wat ever nonsense u keep blabberin …win a season unbeaten then i ll consider u scums worth talkin to…so stop pesterin ..

  • kenmwu

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    YET, Arsenal never was able to win a championship again? If Wenger was so smart, why couldn’t dude have built up and continued to have more success instead of burn out over the following years. The thing that makes Man UTD and Chelsea (ugk..) so successful is that if they achieve success, they continue to build on their team in all the areas that they were lacking the season before. What does a team like Arsenal do? They sell most of their quality players (eg. Flamini) and they buy Silvestre….yah, exactly.

  • John

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    I don’t know about you, but people don’t buy glory, you retard. As for manchester united’s case, they just buy the stars who are capable of bringing them to the glory. If you are still talking about henry vieira and pires, then i can still talk about beckham scholes and giggs.Actually, i’m the one who should be feeling the pity. Your brain-dead manager can buy all the young talent in the world, but it will still take a long, long time for them to mature into seasoned professionals.By then, fabregas would most probably have left arsenal cos it’ll never win anything and man utd would have won 3 to 4 more titles. And what, you won the league with a team that costed less than southhampton? This just shows that arsenal’s cheap. That’s just the tradition in arsenal, so what is so damn great about it that it needs a no-lifer like you to blabber about? Oh yeah, if you must know, Arsenal’s the one that’s spoilin the beautiful game, you fkn retard. And who gave you the rights to talk about the beautiful game? You don’t know anything about football, so you shouldn’t be bullshiting around as if you’re a real pundit or something. Going unbeaten is nothing special btw. Doing the treble is something special, something arsenal will never achieve. I think doing the double will be impossible enough for your puny team. Did arsenal ever win the champions league? Nah, they can’t and never will. You see, arsenal came close but still lost to barca in the final. So near yet so far. That’s how arsenal will always be. Even with henry vieira and pires, arsenal will never have the credentials to do a treble heck, double.

  • John

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    I don’t know about you, but people don’t buy glory, you retard. As for manchester united’s case, they just buy the stars who are capable of bringing them to the glory. If you are still talking about henry vieira and pires, then i can still talk about beckham scholes and giggs.Actually, i’m the one who should be feeling the pity. Your brain-dead manager can buy all the young talent in the world, but it will still take a long, long time for them to mature into seasoned professionals.By then, fabregas would most probably have left arsenal cos it’ll never win anything and man utd would have won 3 to 4 more titles. And what, you won the league with a team that costed less than southhampton? This just shows that arsenal’s cheap. That’s just the tradition in arsenal, so what is so damn great about it that it needs a no-lifer like you to blabber about? Oh yeah, if you must know, Arsenal’s the one that’s spoilin the beautiful game, you fkn retard. And who gave you the rights to talk about the beautiful game? You don’t know anything about football, so you shouldn’t be bullshiting around as if you’re a real pundit or something. Going unbeaten is nothing special btw. Doing the treble is something special, something arsenal will never achieve. I think doing the double will be impossible enough for your puny team. Did arsenal ever win the champions league? Nah, they can’t and never will. You see, arsenal came close but still lost to barca in the final. So near yet so far. That’s how arsenal will always be. Even with henry vieira and pires, arsenal will never have the credentials to do a treble heck, double. And yeah, you shouldn’t be wasting o

  • jeenal

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    blah blah blah…unbeaten i say…i guess u r the one who s not been watchin all the matches…the beginnin of the season wen ronaldo was injured man u was no where to be seen…we he came bck u ppl strtd winnin again.. wer was ths shrek n berbatov then?? we won the season unbeaten with a team that costed less thn tha whole southampton team tht yr…its teams like man u thts spoilin the beatiful game…there s no diff between u ppl n chelsea …ppl who jus buy off all the players spend millions n buy the trophy..who knws nothin bout watchin players come thru the academy as kids turnin world beaters…i do feel pity for u .. cos u ll never experience how it feels watchin wilshere and simpson …so u keep blabberin bout ur bought glory …wenger bought anelka for 500 000 n sold him for 23 million in couple of years n with tht money he bought three little known french kids…henry pires n viera..the won the season unbeaten..i really feel sad for u cos u can never experience it…ciao..i got better work to do than chat wit a glory buyer..ooops hunter is it??

  • John

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    Yeah whatever, hypocrite. That’s no excuse. If manchester united had 5 starters injured they would still have won porto, cos we have good fringe players, unlike aresnal. Man utd aren’t a team who is dependant only on one player, you moron. If you don’t watch, or should i say, don’t know anything about football, then you shouldn’t speak about it. We still have rooney, berbatov, nani, anderson and many more.(I doubt you even know who they are.) These players would be enough to secure a place in the top 4 and certainly above arse-nal, you fkn retard. What, relegation? Are you dumb or what? And fergie didn’t steal ronaldo from arsenal. We paid more than what you paid, so whats your problem? Of course people from aresnal won’t know the value of a superstar-to-be. Just look at all the individual awards he bagged at his peak. They just pay for any young dude at a cheap price. Also, so what if you won a season unbeaten? We did a treble. I doubt arsenal has the qualities to that, even if you still had henry and vieira. First win a treble (something arsenal will never achieve.) then you’ll have the rights to talk about manchester united.

  • jeenal

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    ths wit a reserve team ..no fab no rvp no adebayor or nasri or clichy or sagna…typical of glory hunters….starts bullshittin without knowin shit…we are holdin on to 4 th place with as much as 5 starters injured .. if as much as 3 or if jus ronaldo stays injured united will be fightin against relegation…full dependant on one person whom fergie shamelessly stole from arsenal…first win a season unbeaten then u ll have the rights to talk bout arsenal..ok..unbeaten..

  • John

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    You’re the one who wrote the shitty loads of noncense. Arsenal would have won if eduardo was not injured. Plain luck won Man Utd the trophy. What a load of crap. You’re just jealous arse-nal did not win anything (even with eduardo they wouldn’t have won anything) last season. You’re just one of those fkn retards who’re really biased and absurd. Plain luck didn’t win us the title. Its the skill that won it. Arsenal’s just a crappy load of junk that needs to be thrown away. I think they’re lucky enough to be considered part of the big four. Yeah, maybe this season we may have underachieved a bit but arsenal ain’t any better. You may have won us but you’re still below us, so what’s your problem?

    And btw, just yesterday arse-nal lost to porto 2-0.

  • jeenal

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    lol…classy stuff dude…u ve successfully written shit loads of nonsense…i believe its not even been a month since gooners kicked ur sorry ass twice…all the glory hunters have this very basic fault all of em are bloody dumb ..lol..last season if eduardo was injured we would ve taken the trophy …plain luck won u the trophy last season …this season it aint gonna help u…

  • nixon

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    This is to Kids soccer. Why should arsne wenger give up? he is a better manager then ferguson, who only has a better team because they have double the amount of money. Do you think ferguson would’ve picked up fabregas when he was dropped from barcelona? Oh and by the way reserve potential young players are better then “experienced” (which is a nice way of saying there old) players. John O’Shea is nearly thirty and doesn’t even match up to some of man us reserves.

  • Philip Wreh

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    Hey thanks Fisher. I like your prediction about Arsenal and I for one will not challenge that because I have watch Arsenal closely since the beggining of the leaque and their output to me is not encouraging when it comes to experience. There is this saying that goes like this: ‘Little child knows how to run but he or she don’t know how to hide’. Arsenal needs experience players who will finnish upfront and not those that will ownly create and don;t finnish. I am not a fan of Man U.niether Arsenal but one who loves the game. Keep it up Man U I hope you meet Barca in the Champion Leaque this time.

  • Kids Soccer

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    Great post Mr Fisher. If i was to choose between Arsenal and Man U, i’ll definitely favour united. Experience, experience, experience. Potential doesn’t guarantee you anything. How many years now has Arsenal been rebuilding? How can you be rebuilding when you sell proven youngsters like Hleb to Barcelona. Playing youngsters before their time is a great way of telling the supporters that we are not going to win any trophies this year again. Stop the excuses Arsenal. How about you try and win some sort of silverware. Arsene days are numbered if you ask me. If he wants to produce young players, COACH THE F^%$ING RESERVES. Just my 2 cents.

    Now that Mr Fisher made his prediction, don’t be suprised if Arsenal wins it. Back the opposite team to Fisher and you’ll make some cash with the bookies.

    P.S Just joking Fisher. Keep up the great work.

  • Soccergoalx

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    I think Voronin went to Germany already.

    We cannot deny the chance of winning a title for any team. I agreed with what is mentioned in the article, but I think arsenal still have the chance to win the title. May be the percentage is lower.

  • Patrick

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    United will not win the league this year. The last time Arsenal won was FA Cup 2005, not 2004, get YOUR facts right, Ben. Wenger will buy in January, hopefully, and when Rosicky, Eduardo, and Walcott come back everything will be alright. Up the Gunners! Fuck Chelski!

  • Daniel Kagia

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    How comes no one ever mentions Liverpool? Dont try to hide from the truth.MAY 21ST 2009 WILL BE THE DAY SOCCER’S DIAMOND IN THE DIRT SHALL BE FOUND,The time Has come for the red side of Mersey to fire up. A team with BABEL,VORONIN,LUCAS,BENAYOUN,KEANE AS SUBSTITUTES!-WHAT A TEAM!!!

  • Graham Fisher

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    I take your points, but in terms of winning the Premier League this season, I would rather have John O’Shea and Gary Neville in reserve than some talented but untried youngsters.

    Hus, you were more elegant, thank you. Fkn retard is a little harsh! 🙂

  • ben

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    Very reasonable article. In fact its full of truth and those gooner fans shud bear with us coz statistics speak by themselves. For how long have those players you are talking about been out injured coz i know since 2004 you have won nothing. Does this mean since then those players have been sidelined?

    The truth always harts!!!!! Glory glory manutd glory glory manutd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • fanner

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    Hey, do you make tougher prediction? I knew how to predict Westbrom would be relegated. What about you?

  • Hus

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    just seen Gaj’s post… i like to think i put it somewhat more elegantly than that!

  • Hus

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    Dont forget, if fit arsenals side would of contained players who are currently not in the starting 11 such as, Diaby, Toure, Eduardo and possibly Rosicky which would of been a more formidable blend of youth and experience.

    But even as a gooner myself and having recently beaten Utd and Chelsea i sadly agree that we wont win the league this year.

  • gaj

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    what a load of bullshit, ill rather have a reserve team full of teenagers who will eventually break in to the first team, then have older players like o’shea who will be out in season or two. the reason their is a lack of depth in arsenal atm is because we have the likes of rosicky, eduardo, eboue, diaby, toure, djourou all injured atm. get ur facts right before u write crap, fkn retard

  • Paul

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    Great Article, Fisher!

  • Paul

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    Great Article, Fisher!

  • gaj

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    what a load of bullshit, ill rather have a reserve team full of teenagers who will eventually break in to the first team, then have older players like o’shea who will be out in season or two. the reason their is a lack of depth in arsenal atm is because we have the likes of rosicky, eduardo, eboue, diaby, toure, djourou all injured atm. get ur facts right before u write crap, fkn retard

  • Hus

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    Dont forget, if fit arsenals side would of contained players who are currently not in the starting 11 such as, Diaby, Toure, Eduardo and possibly Rosicky which would of been a more formidable blend of youth and experience.

    But even as a gooner myself and having recently beaten Utd and Chelsea i sadly agree that we wont win the league this year.

  • Hus

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    just seen Gaj’s post… i like to think i put it somewhat more elegantly than that!

  • fanner

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    Hey, do you make tougher prediction? I knew how to predict Westbrom would be relegated. What about you?

  • ben

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    Very reasonable article. In fact its full of truth and those gooner fans shud bear with us coz statistics speak by themselves. For how long have those players you are talking about been out injured coz i know since 2004 you have won nothing. Does this mean since then those players have been sidelined?

    The truth always harts!!!!! Glory glory manutd glory glory manutd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Graham Fisher

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    I take your points, but in terms of winning the Premier League this season, I would rather have John O’Shea and Gary Neville in reserve than some talented but untried youngsters.

    Hus, you were more elegant, thank you. Fkn retard is a little harsh! 🙂

  • Daniel Kagia

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    How comes no one ever mentions Liverpool? Dont try to hide from the truth.MAY 21ST 2009 WILL BE THE DAY SOCCER’S DIAMOND IN THE DIRT SHALL BE FOUND,The time Has come for the red side of Mersey to fire up. A team with BABEL,VORONIN,LUCAS,BENAYOUN,KEANE AS SUBSTITUTES!-WHAT A TEAM!!!

  • Patrick

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    United will not win the league this year. The last time Arsenal won was FA Cup 2005, not 2004, get YOUR facts right, Ben. Wenger will buy in January, hopefully, and when Rosicky, Eduardo, and Walcott come back everything will be alright. Up the Gunners! Fuck Chelski!

  • Soccergoalx

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    I think Voronin went to Germany already.

    We cannot deny the chance of winning a title for any team. I agreed with what is mentioned in the article, but I think arsenal still have the chance to win the title. May be the percentage is lower.

  • Kids Soccer

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    Great post Mr Fisher. If i was to choose between Arsenal and Man U, i’ll definitely favour united. Experience, experience, experience. Potential doesn’t guarantee you anything. How many years now has Arsenal been rebuilding? How can you be rebuilding when you sell proven youngsters like Hleb to Barcelona. Playing youngsters before their time is a great way of telling the supporters that we are not going to win any trophies this year again. Stop the excuses Arsenal. How about you try and win some sort of silverware. Arsene days are numbered if you ask me. If he wants to produce young players, COACH THE F^%$ING RESERVES. Just my 2 cents.

    Now that Mr Fisher made his prediction, don’t be suprised if Arsenal wins it. Back the opposite team to Fisher and you’ll make some cash with the bookies.

    P.S Just joking Fisher. Keep up the great work.

  • Philip Wreh

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    Hey thanks Fisher. I like your prediction about Arsenal and I for one will not challenge that because I have watch Arsenal closely since the beggining of the leaque and their output to me is not encouraging when it comes to experience. There is this saying that goes like this: ‘Little child knows how to run but he or she don’t know how to hide’. Arsenal needs experience players who will finnish upfront and not those that will ownly create and don;t finnish. I am not a fan of Man U.niether Arsenal but one who loves the game. Keep it up Man U I hope you meet Barca in the Champion Leaque this time.

  • nixon

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    This is to Kids soccer. Why should arsne wenger give up? he is a better manager then ferguson, who only has a better team because they have double the amount of money. Do you think ferguson would’ve picked up fabregas when he was dropped from barcelona? Oh and by the way reserve potential young players are better then “experienced” (which is a nice way of saying there old) players. John O’Shea is nearly thirty and doesn’t even match up to some of man us reserves.

  • jeenal

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    lol…classy stuff dude…u ve successfully written shit loads of nonsense…i believe its not even been a month since gooners kicked ur sorry ass twice…all the glory hunters have this very basic fault all of em are bloody dumb ..lol..last season if eduardo was injured we would ve taken the trophy …plain luck won u the trophy last season …this season it aint gonna help u…

  • John

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    You’re the one who wrote the shitty loads of noncense. Arsenal would have won if eduardo was not injured. Plain luck won Man Utd the trophy. What a load of crap. You’re just jealous arse-nal did not win anything (even with eduardo they wouldn’t have won anything) last season. You’re just one of those fkn retards who’re really biased and absurd. Plain luck didn’t win us the title. Its the skill that won it. Arsenal’s just a crappy load of junk that needs to be thrown away. I think they’re lucky enough to be considered part of the big four. Yeah, maybe this season we may have underachieved a bit but arsenal ain’t any better. You may have won us but you’re still below us, so what’s your problem?

    And btw, just yesterday arse-nal lost to porto 2-0.

  • jeenal

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    ths wit a reserve team ..no fab no rvp no adebayor or nasri or clichy or sagna…typical of glory hunters….starts bullshittin without knowin shit…we are holdin on to 4 th place with as much as 5 starters injured .. if as much as 3 or if jus ronaldo stays injured united will be fightin against relegation…full dependant on one person whom fergie shamelessly stole from arsenal…first win a season unbeaten then u ll have the rights to talk bout arsenal..ok..unbeaten..

  • John

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    Yeah whatever, hypocrite. That’s no excuse. If manchester united had 5 starters injured they would still have won porto, cos we have good fringe players, unlike aresnal. Man utd aren’t a team who is dependant only on one player, you moron. If you don’t watch, or should i say, don’t know anything about football, then you shouldn’t speak about it. We still have rooney, berbatov, nani, anderson and many more.(I doubt you even know who they are.) These players would be enough to secure a place in the top 4 and certainly above arse-nal, you fkn retard. What, relegation? Are you dumb or what? And fergie didn’t steal ronaldo from arsenal. We paid more than what you paid, so whats your problem? Of course people from aresnal won’t know the value of a superstar-to-be. Just look at all the individual awards he bagged at his peak. They just pay for any young dude at a cheap price. Also, so what if you won a season unbeaten? We did a treble. I doubt arsenal has the qualities to that, even if you still had henry and vieira. First win a treble (something arsenal will never achieve.) then you’ll have the rights to talk about manchester united.

  • jeenal

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    blah blah blah…unbeaten i say…i guess u r the one who s not been watchin all the matches…the beginnin of the season wen ronaldo was injured man u was no where to be seen…we he came bck u ppl strtd winnin again.. wer was ths shrek n berbatov then?? we won the season unbeaten with a team that costed less thn tha whole southampton team tht yr…its teams like man u thts spoilin the beatiful game…there s no diff between u ppl n chelsea …ppl who jus buy off all the players spend millions n buy the trophy..who knws nothin bout watchin players come thru the academy as kids turnin world beaters…i do feel pity for u .. cos u ll never experience how it feels watchin wilshere and simpson …so u keep blabberin bout ur bought glory …wenger bought anelka for 500 000 n sold him for 23 million in couple of years n with tht money he bought three little known french kids…henry pires n viera..the won the season unbeaten..i really feel sad for u cos u can never experience it…ciao..i got better work to do than chat wit a glory buyer..ooops hunter is it??

  • John

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    I don’t know about you, but people don’t buy glory, you retard. As for manchester united’s case, they just buy the stars who are capable of bringing them to the glory. If you are still talking about henry vieira and pires, then i can still talk about beckham scholes and giggs.Actually, i’m the one who should be feeling the pity. Your brain-dead manager can buy all the young talent in the world, but it will still take a long, long time for them to mature into seasoned professionals.By then, fabregas would most probably have left arsenal cos it’ll never win anything and man utd would have won 3 to 4 more titles. And what, you won the league with a team that costed less than southhampton? This just shows that arsenal’s cheap. That’s just the tradition in arsenal, so what is so damn great about it that it needs a no-lifer like you to blabber about? Oh yeah, if you must know, Arsenal’s the one that’s spoilin the beautiful game, you fkn retard. And who gave you the rights to talk about the beautiful game? You don’t know anything about football, so you shouldn’t be bullshiting around as if you’re a real pundit or something. Going unbeaten is nothing special btw. Doing the treble is something special, something arsenal will never achieve. I think doing the double will be impossible enough for your puny team. Did arsenal ever win the champions league? Nah, they can’t and never will. You see, arsenal came close but still lost to barca in the final. So near yet so far. That’s how arsenal will always be. Even with henry vieira and pires, arsenal will never have the credentials to do a treble heck, double. And yeah, you shouldn’t be wasting o

  • John

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    I don’t know about you, but people don’t buy glory, you retard. As for manchester united’s case, they just buy the stars who are capable of bringing them to the glory. If you are still talking about henry vieira and pires, then i can still talk about beckham scholes and giggs.Actually, i’m the one who should be feeling the pity. Your brain-dead manager can buy all the young talent in the world, but it will still take a long, long time for them to mature into seasoned professionals.By then, fabregas would most probably have left arsenal cos it’ll never win anything and man utd would have won 3 to 4 more titles. And what, you won the league with a team that costed less than southhampton? This just shows that arsenal’s cheap. That’s just the tradition in arsenal, so what is so damn great about it that it needs a no-lifer like you to blabber about? Oh yeah, if you must know, Arsenal’s the one that’s spoilin the beautiful game, you fkn retard. And who gave you the rights to talk about the beautiful game? You don’t know anything about football, so you shouldn’t be bullshiting around as if you’re a real pundit or something. Going unbeaten is nothing special btw. Doing the treble is something special, something arsenal will never achieve. I think doing the double will be impossible enough for your puny team. Did arsenal ever win the champions league? Nah, they can’t and never will. You see, arsenal came close but still lost to barca in the final. So near yet so far. That’s how arsenal will always be. Even with henry vieira and pires, arsenal will never have the credentials to do a treble heck, double.

  • kenmwu

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    YET, Arsenal never was able to win a championship again? If Wenger was so smart, why couldn’t dude have built up and continued to have more success instead of burn out over the following years. The thing that makes Man UTD and Chelsea (ugk..) so successful is that if they achieve success, they continue to build on their team in all the areas that they were lacking the season before. What does a team like Arsenal do? They sell most of their quality players (eg. Flamini) and they buy Silvestre….yah, exactly.

  • jeenal

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    dude man pls for god sake stop blabberin without knowin shit…we didnt sell flamini….he was a free agent at the end of last season n he signed for milan …typical glory hunter ..all fart no shit..lol..i tol u once i tell u again wat ever nonsense u keep blabberin …win a season unbeaten then i ll consider u scums worth talkin to…so stop pesterin ..

  • jeenal

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    P.S man u n chelsea doesn not build on their team…they jus keep buyin more n more n more n hope some one or the other ll fit in n do the job…that doesnt need fergie s exceptional brilliance …make me the manager gimme money i ll do it…i ll really sad to see tht ths s wat the beautiful game has become..trophy goes to the richest…really sad..if not arsenal i d rather support crystal palace or derby than becomin a glory buyin scum bag..those clubs have more soul n passion for the game thn man u even if they dont have more money…dont worry soon man city ll buy a team n kick ur united ass out of manchester n give u a taste of ur own medicine…hold on…

  • baka

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    Shut up, Arse-nal fanboy. You make all Arse-nal fans look stupid.

  • Phuc Bui

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    Arse just can never win any trophy because Wenger keeps training young players, the rest of their team are about 20 or younger… Just look at the past… when Arse has a buch of experienced stars such as Dennis, Henry, Veira, Lausen, Tony Adams, Campbell, David Seaman…, there were nothing is able to stop them at that time… but in my opinions, Wenger should improve his team’s performance by signing with experienced players who might inspire the young team to go further. Anyways, I’m a craze United’s fan :), i hope Man Utd will do their best and get the 3th consecutive PL trophy, but still hope Arsenal to be MU’s best rival. 😀

  • kenmwu

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    They could’ve kept Flamini if Arsenal were willing to throw in a little more money, but they weren’t and now Wengers still scrounging for some quality midfield players. And how has United or Chelsea not built on their teams? They removed players they did not need and added QUALITY players in positions they thought was necessary to beef up. Man Utd are one of the biggest clubs in the world, you don’t see any world class players pissing their pants to play for Arsenal do you? Its either Man Utd or Madrid. Case closed.

  • toro

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    when it comes to experience, what arsenal team are having now is lacking of.
    but remember, as mentioned before, if the likes of rosicky and eduardo are not injured, and with the current position arsenal are now, would you still predict that arsenal are really out?
    now that cesc is out for 4 months which mean that he wouldn’t be playing until the end of the season (let’s hope his speedy recovery). now, i think wenger should think of digging deep of his pocket looking for a (better & experienced) replacement for the skipper, if he really wants his team to be considered “contender”.
    i must sadly again admit that i couldn’t see arsenal winning the championship this year. if i were wenger, i would rather concentrate FA cup with only 6 games to win. if he could make double by winning UCL, that would be sensational! 🙂
    again, IF wenger finally buy some great talented experienced players in january, would you still predict arsenal are really out? 🙂

  • Emmanuel Egboh

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    There’s been eno4 venom already lashed out ere. I strongly advise all u gooner’s wit a foul mouth 2 go wash it wit soap & stop nagn bout ur unbeatn run of yester years. While u’re at it, fire ur confused Arse manager or beta still, relegate him to ur reserve team to go fiddle sorry discover ur youngsters. Let’s all welcome Aston Villa to d ‘big 4’. A welcomed exit 4 u gooners, go get ur house right.
    P.S- neva saw d silverware u won 4 d unbeatn run

  • chris horton

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    I’ve heard some talk about letting Flamini go, it was a bit of a gamble, he played well 3/4 of one season. Big deal if Milan wanted to risk all that cash for a player that played well for part of a season so be it. I think it comes down to Arsenal wanting to be profitable at the end, I would like to know how much Man U or Chelsea profit at the end of each season

  • Devin

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    well actually man u and chelsea do make a lot of profit for winning. Man u got profit from winning the double last year, and Chelsea got profit for just coming in second for the Champions League, i wouldnt be able to say if they made anything off getting second place in the league. Back to this season, im really hoping Man u will win the league atleast, of course we all want more but at the least that would be nice, they are technically only 1 point behind Liverpool at the top if you figure they win there unplayed games against Fulham and Wigan, which they will. but they need to beat or atleast tie Chelsea or things r gona get a lot harder for them, Arsenal r a great side but like everyone says they lack the experience at the moment, and its hard to say they could still win without Fabregas for awhile, i just hope they stay top 4 and maybe play the spoiler a little bit.

  • Brad Lovell

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    Arsenal won’t win. How can they? Wenger focuses on getting young players, which ain’t always bad: did you see how one defender bicycled the ball away to keep Liverpool from winning the game between those two teams 2-1? Anyway, MU is at the table’s top, the Gunners ain’t, and Arsenal has Liverpool, Chelsea, and Aston Villa to go through to even have a shot at 1st place. Some of my ancestors came from Manchester and supported MU, and so do I, so its my desire for Arsenal to go down, especially after that 2-1 loss MU got at the Gunner’s hands earlier this season.
    GO RED DEVILZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Brad Lovell

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    I just read that comment by jeenal on Dec 14th… Man city aint gonna do a thing to MU! We just beat em 1-0 ( Nice goal by Wayne Roooooooooooooonay) so what then Gunny! Man city just got s***ed, and ur team, Gunny, is next!

    GO RED DEVILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Brad Lovell

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    kenmwu from Dec 13th has a good point… Wenger started out prety good, but he has burned on out ( hear that jeenal?) and i aint bettin that he will make a come back ever. And it aint wise to sell good players, even if you get a lot of cash in return…… I’d rather build up by buyin a few good players, like David Villa ( did y’all see that hat trick he got in the Euro 2008?). That’s what a good manager, like fergie, does: buy new players to build up on success.

  • ismail

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    i am truely gunners for life..no matter how down we are at the moment. i believe that next season we will shine and gun every one under ………….cos we have the talent…i am always arsenal for real……..

  • FOX

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    Arsenal will be down but they will bounce back they are young they can only improve with their average age of 22. About the lack on experience, i dont think it matters to much. we almost won the premier league last year we didnt win it not cause of cause of lack of experience but cause of injuries. We have replaced the players who have left with Arshavin and Nasri we are back where we was. But the differents now is our young players are more experienced all this talk they lack experience well they will but they will gain that experience the more games they will play. We do have experience example Arshavin, Manual Almunia, William Gallas, Thomas Rosicky and Silvestre. Its just a matter of time now we have to learn from this season and use it to motervate us for next. Its does take Arsenal time to start winning building a young side takes time. Like when Arsene Wenger first came in he won the double but didnt win anything then for 4 years building a young side takes time. This side we are building is a new side from the one of 2006 who reached the Champions League. Its been 3 years since then so i predict next season we will probably win something if not next season deffinately the season after. But i do feel it is essential we win next season the fans are getting restless.

  • твoйтaÑ‚apин

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    Мдааа… Это финиш… По-видимому пора бы расслабиться и отдохнуть 🙂

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